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02-22-2016, 12:33 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
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What's wrong with this picture?
Several years ago I volunteered to stop and look at an Argosy motorhome that had broken down near St. Louis and the owners were looking to sell it. I took several dozen photos and forwarded them on to the prospective buyer.
This morning I was looking through the pictures as I was looking for an example of how something was put together on the motorhome. Since I'm also in the middle of replacing the spark plug cables on my Argosy I glanced at the picture I took of the engine.
I'm by no means a Chevy expert but I'm pretty sure there's something wrong in this picture. Can anyone else spot what I think I've seen?
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02-22-2016, 12:53 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2012 22' FB Sport
2003 19' Bambi
Port Townsend
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It's wired to fire 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8?
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02-22-2016, 12:59 PM
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Rivet Master
2002 30' Classic S/O
Fleming Island
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Well, it did have a minor vibration.....
I'm not sure its 12345678, but it is definitely firing all cylinders on one side and then all cylinders on the other.
Al
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02-22-2016, 01:10 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
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So I'm not losing my mind!
I looked at that picture and finally compared it to a few other pictures that I have of other motorhome engines and figured it can't possibly be connected properly. I can't remember whether it was the engine or transmission that finally failed but after looking at the picture I'm betting it was the engine.
Minor vibration might be putting it mildly!
Thanks for confirming my suspisions
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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02-22-2016, 01:55 PM
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Rivet Master
1997 30' Excella
1961 26' Overlander
1954 22' Flying Cloud
1981 28' Airstream 280
San Antonio
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It is firing 1-3-5-7-2-4-6-8 That thing should have made all kinds of racket!
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02-22-2016, 02:04 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1988 32' Excella
Ojai
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Looks like 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2 to me. You cant really tell on the odd side though.
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02-22-2016, 02:53 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1983 30' Airstream 300
Covington
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It's called a "Corrected Design" cap. The circuits from rotor tip to the plug wire connector cross over internally. The idea was for a cleaner plug wire installation. Doesn't work too well for daily drivers, might be okay for show cars that don't get driven much.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/acc-8141r
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02-22-2016, 03:00 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuco
Looks like 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2 to me. You cant really tell on the odd side though.
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Tonight I'm going to try and find the rest of the pictures that I took to see if I have any better views. I typically take lots of pictures from all angles so who knows.
I can't believe it made it cross country on the wrong firing order but stranger things have happened.
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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02-22-2016, 03:02 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
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Join Date: Jan 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bethany533
It's called a "Corrected Design" cap. The circuits from rotor tip to the plug wire connector cross over internally. The idea was for a cleaner plug wire installation. Doesn't work too well for daily drivers, might be okay for show cars that don't get driven much.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/acc-8141r
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Interesting concept but from reading the reviews it sounds like it was a real POS which probably explains why it's not available for sale right now
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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02-22-2016, 06:56 PM
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Dazed and Confused
Currently Looking...
1983 31' Airstream310
Hillsburgh
, Ontario
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It seems ACCEL still make corrected caps.
Cheers
Tony
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02-22-2016, 08:31 PM
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Rivet Master
1965 17' Caravel
1983 27' Excella
Walnut Grove/Laguna Woods
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I have this same type of cap on my orange "47 Chevy and Lynn's '37 Buick They are black Crossfire, not a red Accel. Makes things nice and clean as well as easy to wire. Don't know if they are available for other makes.
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02-23-2016, 12:35 PM
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2 Rivet Member
Vintage Kin Owner
San Antonio
, Texas
Join Date: May 2012
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Chevy engine?
Looks like a FORD engine to me, I dont remember any Chevy with the distributer in front of engine.
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02-23-2016, 12:39 PM
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2 Rivet Member
Vintage Kin Owner
San Antonio
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OOps
Forgot I was looking from the rear of engine
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02-23-2016, 02:10 PM
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Rivet Master
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There's nothing wrong with the wiring. It's just the pistons are numbered incorrectly.
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02-23-2016, 02:37 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 23' FB International
Woodstock
, Ontario
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It can't be wrong firing order..you would not have made it cross country without a lot of misfires. I crossed two wires on my GM 350. The misfire was terrible, and one garage said it was blown head gasket. GM service manager picked it up right away and showed me where if it is a GM engine the firing order is embossed on the top of the engine.
JCW
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02-23-2016, 02:52 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' FB FC Bunk
Ayer
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"What's wrong with this picture?"
Its a gas engine?
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02-23-2016, 05:33 PM
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Rivet Master
1982 28' Airstream 280
Port Angeles
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Join Date: Aug 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted S.
"What's wrong with this picture?"
Its a gas engine?
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Agreed.
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02-24-2016, 05:08 AM
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Dazed and Confused
Currently Looking...
1983 31' Airstream310
Hillsburgh
, Ontario
Join Date: Sep 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted S.
"What's wrong with this picture?"
Its a gas engine?
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SHOTS FIRED! ping, piow.
Cheers
Tony
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02-24-2016, 05:12 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Isuzusweet
SHOTS FIRED! ping, piow.
Cheers
Tony
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....with rubber bullets that just bounce off....
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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02-24-2016, 09:02 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 20
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Kooskia
, Idaho
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 4,591
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I know, I know, you just "pulled the trigger". How I hate that phrase. "buy" is such a better term.
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