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Old 05-13-2003, 09:48 PM   #1
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Oil Filter Study

Here is an interesting web page on oil filters. I was reading a whopper of a usenet thread on oil filters. That's not a place for the weak minded!

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Old 05-13-2003, 11:46 PM   #2
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Thumbs up Great website~!

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Thanks for the link!~!
That is quite a site and, eye opener.
I'm gonna print this one out and, keep it for easier reading.

BTW, it just confirmed what I had been told abt FRAM..
(I noticed that the date on his research information is (1999) somewhat 'dated'..Do you know if he has anything more recent?)

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Old 05-14-2003, 06:58 AM   #3
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Here's the thread out on usenet:

Are all oil filters created equal?

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When it comes to Oil Filters......

You only need to know 3 things:

1.Amsoil
2.Mobile 1
3.Hastings

Pure One's are rated pretty good also.

I have some pix of a Hastings that I sawed apart, excellent construction.
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I have been having good luck with the A/C brand filters. Good drain back valves. I have to get the Fram off it that the PO put on it this weekend.

For the record Autozone is phasing out the A/C and Bosch filters. The Bosch Filters for GM trucks are IDENTICAL to the A/C. It's the same filter different paint and sticker. I have been using Bosch on My Supra that has a oil filter mounted on it's side so very prone to drain back problems. I had tried a couple of filters and I had run accross this story right after I had purchesed the car. Only filter that was in stock at the time was a Fram. Lots of start up rattle. Swapped on the Bosch for the vehicle and it stopped the start up rattle all together.
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I'm in shock, I've been using Fram for several years now. Next oil change I'm going to the Amsoil product.
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There are a bunch of those oil filter threads floating around most of the car/truck forums.

The Fram is a POS. I didn't believe it until one nearly dumped all the oil out of a Brandi's Accord. The filter valve siezed and the weakest link was the gasket, so it blew almost all the oil out. So I can attest first hand stay away from Fram.

I use the UPF-52s in the battleship. Cost is about $6 compared with the standard PF-52s cost of about $3.

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Re: Fram

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I'm in shock, I've been using Fram for several years now. Next oil change I'm going to the Amsoil product.
Scary isn't it.
I have never been a fan of fram. Before I was driving GM trucks I was driving Mazda RX7 and I always bought the filters from the dealer. Those were Nippon as I recall. Before that I was driving VW's and like my Dad I alwsy Bought the MANN filters from the dealer. MANN is a excelent filter but not widely available. THere was a guy in either German our the UK that did a simular study of the products available there. The MANN filters were well rated.
Let me see if I can find a link. I have changed computers a couple times and no longer have the book mark.
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I read this post and links and it is an eye-opener.....does anyone know where Castrol filters fit in?.....such as the MaxPro?
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Exclamation Surprised to say the least

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Castrol PH922A (all Fram numbers should be same on Castrol filters) Champion ... 1500's
This was taken off the internet and, sorta says it all..

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I remember seeing this study over a year ago and thought it was interesting. Amsoil magazines have said that the Mobile One, AC and Hastings filters were good so that is what I buy when I wasn't using the Amsoil SDF-15 filter. I use the Amsoil recommended Hastings filter in my 8.1 engine until such time they make an SDF filter. I have also used the STP media filter as well as the Castrol filter. I do not use the Fram on any of my vehicles.
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Oil Filter Study ...

WOW !!! Always used Fram ... figured since they were a big company they should know what they're doing ... WRONG !!
Changed the filter (only) to a Wix filter- no oil change - in our '00 Jeep ... oil pressure increased by 26% !! (Currently using 5-30 Mobil-1 in it.)
Did the same to our '75 Argosy ... 32% increase in oil pressure !! (Currently using 20-50 Castrol GTX in it.)
Are Fram filters that much of a P.O.S that they actually inpeed the oil flow ??
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Re: When it comes to Oil Filters......

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Originally posted by Pick
You only need to know 3 things:

1.Amsoil
2.Mobile 1
3.Hastings

Pure One's are rated pretty good also.

I have some pix of a Hastings that I sawed apart, excellent construction.
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fram filters are the number one cause of cold start "knock" in chevys.

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Oil Filters

I have used Fram for 15 years based on an old comparison study that judged them primarily on particle filtration size.

I have been having valve train noise with an old 300six Ford during warmup. Will change the filter tomorrow.

Fram will never get on the new GMC.

I need to thank you guys for the good discussion.
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