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Old 06-25-2015, 11:55 PM   #43
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Any comments on the above unit...good one or not?
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Old 06-26-2015, 02:40 AM   #44
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It's a good size filter rated at 10 micron. I'm not sure how it is used on your coach. Is it set up as a primary or secondary filter and if so what are the other filters? Yes you can see water in the bowl if present. It will separate from the fuel and settle at the bottom and is pretty obvious unless there is enough to completely fill the bowl. At that point you won't see the two fluids and it is difficult to tell the color through the tinted bowl. If you drain a little fluid off then you will know for sure.
Your filter is a Fleetguard but you can get crossovers from Wix, NAPA, Baldwin or whoever you choose. You should also be able to get it in different micron ratings.
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Old 06-26-2015, 05:14 AM   #45
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I should be getting my new bowl delivered today. Hopefully its the right one. Wondering now if I should have just replaced the whole unit.
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Old 06-26-2015, 09:14 AM   #46
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The sumps get checked regularly on aircraft.


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I've replaced my filters with solid ones that just have a drain cock on the bottom. No site bowl. I cut a notch in aircraft fuel tested that makes it easy to open the cock and catch a sample. It's actually easier than crawling under to see what's in the bowl and more thorough. And nothing to leak.

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Old 06-26-2015, 10:01 AM   #47
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I believe the Airstream manual suggests inspecting with each fill up.
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Old 06-26-2015, 10:50 AM   #48
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Good to check it often but you won't see anything until the new fuel settles and travels through the system. I check mine before the first drive of the day as I check the oil, tires, leaks, and lockers... Habits from flying!
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Old 06-26-2015, 11:27 AM   #49
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Good habit, thanks for the info Kota. Wife and I are talking about coming out to FOCO over Christmas. Split some time between son in Fort Collins and daughter down in Denver. Driving the 310 out. Fort Collins seems pretty liberal about parking, parked in the street at my sons house before the moho get together. Then get a spot at Golden's white water park. My daughter lives in the LOHI neighborhood and its a straight shot down 32nd street from Golden. Have never spent the holidays out there, hope we can pull it off.
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Old 06-26-2015, 11:34 AM   #50
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MAYCO, broke down on the road need advice

A couple years ago I went to Ft Collins to inspect a 360 Classic Gas for a guy. The owners son set it up at a pretty nice KOA on the northwest corner of town.

For the Christmas holidays I'd bring shorts, a down parka, golf clubs, snow shoes, bicycles, and a snow shovel! You've experienced CO weather!
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Old 06-26-2015, 12:57 PM   #51
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Aint that the truth!!
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Old 06-27-2015, 01:07 PM   #52
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Installed the new sight bowl this morning, easy job but a little messy on your back refilling the canister with diesel fuel. While I was at it I pulled and cleaned the little turbine mechanism. It unscrews by hand. Inspected and reinstalled. Racor part number for the replacement sight bowl for the 500fg is RK15405.

This unit is referred to as a "turbine" series. After priming the unit and replacing the filter she started right up no problems. QUESTION: to me, turbine means "spin" in most all cases I can think of. After I started her up I watched the sight bowl and did not see the turbine spinning inside the fuel. Hmmm. Like I said, I had pulled and cleaned the turbine from the unit while I had it apart as per the instructions that came with the replacement bowl. Should the turbine be spinning ALL THE TIME when the engine is running??? Tried to find info or a video on just how the turbine series works but no luck. Anyone with more knowledge about these care to share?

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Old 06-27-2015, 01:33 PM   #53
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Mike it doesn't spin it just sends the fuel out in a swirling motion spinning the heaver particles and water to the outside separating from the fuel and settling to the bottom of the bowl. Here is their "technical" explanation.




Turbine Series filter assemblies are designed to be installed on the vacuum side of the fuel transfer pump for best efficiency and protect precision engine components from dirt, rust, algae, asphaltines, varnishes, and especially water, which is prevalent in engine fuels.
This filter removes contaminates from fuel using the following legendary three stage process:
  • Stage One: Separation : As fuel enters the filter assembly, it moves through the centrifuge and spins off large solids and water droplets which fall to the bottom of the collection bowl.
  • Stage Two: Coalescing : Small water droplets bead-up on the surface of the conical baffle and cartridge element. When heavy enough, they too fall to the bottom of the bowl.
  • Stage Three: Filtration : Proprietary Aquabloc®II cartridge elements repel water and remove contaminants from fuel down to two micron (nominal). They are waterproof and effective longer then water absorbing elements.
It is certainly a lot of marketing talk but this filter has been around for a long time unchanged and they do the job. I have two of these on my boat since the 70's and you would be amazed at the crap I have drained out of those bowls.
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Old 06-27-2015, 01:41 PM   #54
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Ahhhhhhhhhh, I get it. Thanks Dan, makes sense now. I was thinking along those same lines but thought it might spin as the fuel passed through it. Creating centrifical force to throw the particles to the outside of the bowl and then sink to the bottom. Well good to know that I didnt screw something up during the repair.
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When I bought my isuzu excella in the north Carolina mountains it hadn't run in years, wouldn't start, and I couldn't find anyone within 50 miles willing to tow it. Figuring that the fuel tank was full of crud, I got a 5 gallon plastic fuel can, filled it with clean disel, strapped it up front next to the passengers seat and ran clear plastic tubing to the engine hand pump. Bypassed the Racor which was also full of crud. Also ran a clear tube from the fuel return line back into the 5 gal can. The clear tubing let me see if air bubbles were in the lines and whether the fuel was clear. After getting the hand pump working (whole different story) and pumped the air out, its started right away and I was able to drive it 70 miles or so home.
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Very cool and great field expediency!
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