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04-20-2015, 04:08 PM
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Rivet Master
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1995 36' Classic 36
Ludington
, Michigan
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K&N Filter
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04-20-2015, 05:36 PM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
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Might as well be running a window screen. Paper is best.
Perry
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04-20-2015, 05:40 PM
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2007 30' Classic S/O
Somewhere
, South Carolina
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I'm not taking a side but IF I was counseling a newbie on looking at a diesel p/u that had some form of oiled air filter element, or really any filter here's my simple suggestion and them my more serious suggestion.
1. Remove some piece of post filter air tube or hose between the air filter and turbo. Take a pristine white rag and wipe the inside of the tube.White rag perfectly, spotlessly, flawlessly clean? Good sign. Any dirt film? Run, don't walk.
2. Engine oil analysis will detail and test for contaminants.
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04-20-2015, 06:10 PM
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Rivet Master
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1995 36' Classic 36
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K&N Filter
None of that was a surprise. Knew what I was getting into. Just thought it was a good example of to look out for. Amazing how much that impeller looks like the inlet of a 50 year old Kirby.
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04-20-2015, 08:16 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1985 32.5' Airstream 325
Lindsay
, Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2010
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Where was it mounted to get that much dirt inside it. What make it the new one I haven't see that kind before
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04-20-2015, 08:29 PM
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1987 Avion 34W owner
Vintage Kin Owner
Good Ol'
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Nope, won't use them...
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04-20-2015, 08:42 PM
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Rivet Master
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1995 36' Classic 36
Ludington
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K&N Filter
Quote:
Originally Posted by shepherd57
Where was it mounted to get that much dirt inside it. What make it the new one I haven't see that kind before
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That's a Freightliner M2 filter by Donaldson. They pop up on eBay for $100 new quite often. It's a new axial flow design. It's designed for 600 hp so the little 5.9 should breath well. I posted on the install on my 95 some time ago. Very nice design. Nearly impossible to get dirt in the canister during element change and it has a secondary protection filter. Cartridges run about $50.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/2714347...3D817625282686
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04-21-2015, 07:40 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream - Other
2016 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Bosque Farms
, New Mexico
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I've had one on the MG for the last -- ah, well, this is almost embarrassing, but it's going on 30 years now. It still works ok. I just keep on cleaning it up and reinstalling it.
Is it superior to anything else, including paper filters? I doubt it. But it appeals to my inner need to reuse reuse reuse.
Lynn
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04-24-2015, 07:36 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1991 30' Airstream 30
San Francisco
, California
Join Date: Aug 2013
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I like your mod, and will look at updating mine to the same.
I have been using K&N on my vehicles for years...have them on my Merc e55 wagon at the moment...first thing I did when I got it.
I don't think the filter you had on there was designed for that application...too small and exposed.
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04-25-2015, 08:56 AM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
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Dirt is a very bad thing in an engine. It is like running sand paper through it. It will wear out rings and cylinders and probably does not help the valves either. I have seen that happens to the insides of engines run without good air filtration.
Perry
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04-25-2015, 11:41 AM
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Rivet Master
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1995 36' Classic 36
Ludington
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K&N Filter
Quote:
Originally Posted by SebasSF
I like your mod, and will look at updating mine to the same.
I have been using K&N on my vehicles for years...have them on my Merc e55 wagon at the moment...first thing I did when I got it.
I don't think the filter you had on there was designed for that application...too small and exposed.
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Lots of guy swear by them but I see too many cases like this. Especially where they are used in challenging environments. There is a reason they flow more air. I think the PowerCore is a much better solution.
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04-25-2015, 12:46 PM
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Rivet Master
2008 22' Safari
Spicewood (W of Austin)
, Texas
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K&N should be outlawed for false advertising (calling their screens "filters".)
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04-26-2015, 10:32 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1991 30' Airstream 30
San Francisco
, California
Join Date: Aug 2013
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Know what's funny? Avery car, truck, motor etc. forum you can find has a thread on K&N just like this. Some people love them, some hate them...can we please leave it at that and get on with our lives?
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04-26-2015, 10:34 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1991 30' Airstream 30
San Francisco
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Join Date: Aug 2013
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Kota, could you please post a link to your install information? I could not find it using search...
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04-26-2015, 02:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SebasSF
Kota, could you please post a link to your install information? I could not find it using search...
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http://www.airforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121184
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04-26-2015, 03:56 PM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
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I used an K&N in New jersey for several years. Went out west and then up into Canada. Looked at it when I got into Canada and can honestly say I did not find anything larger than a gran of sand in my turbo intake pipe. Now that said I did not want sand in my turbo intake pipe so I immediately bought a stock filter and replaced the K&N.
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04-26-2015, 05:19 PM
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Ah, the ole K&N filter debate. I've run K&N for years. I have the Banks K&N type on the MH, I run it dry. A K&N on my F150, run it dry. K&N filters on my Polaris RZR and my Honda quad, I run both of them oiled.
At the ranch property where I ride the ATVs, it is so dusty in the summer that it's difficult to see 10 feet in front if one is riding in a group. Burning Man was a great trial for the Banks filter.
I will always run K&Ns.
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04-26-2015, 06:00 PM
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Rivet Master
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1995 36' Classic 36
Ludington
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I'm sold on these new PowerCore filters as a way of improving airflow and providing filtration that manufacturers of very expensive turbo diesels have selected. They make it nearly impossible to get contamination in the intake during service. It a good design if you have the room to install the box. Fortunately, the 360 diesel has the room. Poor service practices and neglect will cause damage with any type of filter. Also keep in mind that those living in moist climates with lots of green have a lot less dust than dry climates.
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04-26-2015, 06:36 PM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
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A good filter should clog all the way up before allowing dirt to enter.
Perry
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04-26-2015, 06:48 PM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Lin
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I've heard the dirtier a K&N gets, the better it filters.
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