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Old 11-01-2004, 02:35 PM   #1
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Question How To: Remove Mirrors

I need to remove both the driver and passenger side mirrors so I can strip off the old failing paint on the 345. It looks like I need to remove the driver and passenger interior side panels (drill out rivets, unscrew stuff, disconnect chair controls, etc.) before I can gain access to the back side of the mirror mounts.

I was wondering if anyone has been here before and had any tips or tricks for me before I get too deep into this one.
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Old 11-01-2004, 03:46 PM   #2
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Mine had a backing plate with weldnuts for the mirrors. Pull the inner panels and all will be revealed (it's not that bad, might help to pull the seats off the risers).

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Old 11-01-2004, 04:04 PM   #3
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Took awhile to find a picture, but in the upper left hand is a bare metal spot, this is where the backing plate was attached.

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Old 11-01-2004, 04:56 PM   #4
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Ahah!

John - you amaze me with your ability to recall this stuff (and find a picture of it to boot!)

Thanks!
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Steven,

On my 76 the backing plate was riveted to the backside of the outer skin. The holes were tapped into the plate and there were no backing nuts to remove. The screws were a lot like the screws that are holding the bumper on, etc. If you need a picture of one of the screws I have a few extra from my Ramco upgrade.
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Old 11-02-2004, 06:28 AM   #6
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if you are just removing the paint, you can blue tape the mirror and remove paint around the base. I would wrap a few layers around and use heavy brown painters paper to cover the rest.
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Old 11-02-2004, 08:41 AM   #7
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Alan,
Well, I'm, uhm, err, polishing around them so they need to come off in order for it to look right.
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Thumbs up Ramco Mirrors

I am going to start installing my mirrors tomorrow. I will take pictures and post them as I go. The info on this post is already pretty helpful. Hope I don't have to remove the seats.

Here goes! I was an aircraft mechanic in a former life. Long time ago though.
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I'm looking foward to seeing how to do this project. New mirrors would be a nice improvement on the 345, especially on the passenger side where it's hard to see down the coach.
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I spoke to Ramco at one point and they said if I was willing to wait they would drill the bases for our existing holes and mounting points. This would allow mounting over the original holes and use the backing plates. There was no limit on what models I could choose for this as long as the mirror was a decent fit. I have this on my upgrade list. I added the Ramcos to my 76 and the added view-ability was fantastic!
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Question Covering Holes

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I spoke to Ramco at one point and they said if I was willing to wait they would drill the bases for our existing holes and mounting points. This would allow mounting over the original holes and use the backing plates.
In another thread I learned that the Ramco mounts covered the old holes quite nicely. I'll let you know.
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Took awhile to find a picture, but in the upper left hand is a bare metal spot, this is where the backing plate was attached.

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Talking Ramco Mirrors

Got started today and it was kinda cold. About 29 degrees and windy, but I have a 40 x 60 pole barn so I am inside although not heated. Took the old mirrors off with no problem and saved all the parts just in case. Made a cardboard template of the base of the new Ramco mirrors, (wish they furnished one), and positioned it over the old holes from the old mirrors. It covers very well. I will have to do a little touch up paint just under the mount, but not much.

I learned very quickly that the re-inforced area for the mirrors is really hard material. I had to walk back to my shop and get my best drill bits to drill it. The cheap ones I had out there wouldn't cut it. There is enough back plate to mount the new mirrors if you are just careful to stay on the plate.

I drilled a hole in the center and enlarged it and fed in a plastic snake to see where it would end up. It came out under the dash so I needn't pull out the side panels. Good news!! I can just tape the wires to the snake and pull them through.

I will mount the switch just under the seat control switches. There is room and it will be convenient as well. I can access the area by removing the panel that holds the ash tray.

I saved the mounting bolts from the old mirrors. Ramco sends some heavy sheet metal screws, but I thought the old ones were threaded in and seem stronger. I drilled the holes and used a 7/32 tap and the old screws fit right in and hold solidly. The backing plates are about 3/8 of an inch thick and really solid.

I removed the mirrors from the arm by backing out the allen screws and removed the turn signal light from the arm so I could mount the arms and see how they fit. Worked out nice.

I will have to run the wires for the right side up through the front of the firewall. I can do that by drilling a small hole through the firewall and routing the wire up along the radiator.

Tomorrow I will work on the left side. I can already tell that this will make a significant difference. These mirrors are much larger and stand out farther.

Hope it doesn't get any colder!!
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I did take pictures and will upload some tomorrow morning.
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