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Old 07-12-2006, 09:40 PM   #15
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Can of 4C
Sounds similar to something I think is called Sea Foam--the green stuff. I have used it on the 454 but not on the generator....

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Old 07-14-2006, 02:03 AM   #16
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Glen,
I was having similar problems.
The generator would start to hesitate once it got warm, and it would belch out black smoke. I would watch the throttle go to wide open, and it would eventually die, spewing black smoke all the while. (It would actually start to miss, then couldn't recover once it got all loaded up- which I found out later)

Black smoke = rich or not enough air - replaced air filter (needed it anyway) didn't fix the problem.
I replaced the plugs - no different.
I had good spark, fuel delivery was good, and I know there's air.
Checked the gap on the points - small adjustment to .016" but no help.
I fiddled with the idle and main jet adjustments - now it would run, but not right.
I sprayed a can of "4C" in there - fun, but no solution.
I took apart the whole carb and cleaned it out - it was already pretty clean.
I bought a new set of points - problem solved.

When I finally bought the points ($27 w/condenser) the parts guy mentioned "that is probably the most purchased part for your type of generator, they seem to wear out or corrode faster than a lot of the other components".
To which I replied "so I've been in here 3 times in the last 2 days, and you just now mention this?" - we had a good repor going

I thought the points looked fine on initial inspection, but once I had them in my hands compared with the new ones, there was obviously some wear and corrosion.

-Just a tip. The thing runs like a top now.

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Old 07-17-2006, 05:05 PM   #17
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Glen - I'm glad you got your problem fixed!

I have a strange questions for you - would you happen to be a pilot?

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Old 07-17-2006, 05:22 PM   #18
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Troy, ah...yes. 1500 SEL, MEL Private. Had my 15 months of fame back in the late 80's as a photographer in the industry. Shot all the Flight Training covers for the first 14 issues, as well as a bunch of BCA and AC Flyer covers.
Have we met in a prior life...
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Old 07-17-2006, 06:35 PM   #19
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Very cool - 330TT SEL-Instrument.

In this thread up near the top you said you checked something with "no joy". That's how I knew.



For the non-pilots: "No joy" is a term used by pilots when air traffic control tells you about a near-by aircraft relative to your position, and you can't see it (no visual). I usually follow with the comment "but I have them on TCAS" - Traffic Collision Avoidance System (like radar). No sweat, the TCAS screen is more reliable & accurate than my eyeballs.
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Old 07-17-2006, 07:26 PM   #20
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So Troy... assuming the TCAS is not on the LY panel what's it attatched to? and when do we get to see a beauty shot of it??? You know we love photos here ...and anything aluminum works!
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Old 07-17-2006, 07:45 PM   #21
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We actually have a TPAS, and displays on the Garmin 530 screen similar to what TIS looks like. You get advisories and alerts in the headset via a sexy woman's voice with an english accent. It also has an terrain alert and a fancy autopilot that will fly your flightplan including the published approach (and missed, if you need it).

I'll take a photo of the panel next time I run up to the airport. It's a Beech A-36 (club owned). If it's a quick (or cheap) trip I fly a Piper Arrow PA28-200.
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Old 07-18-2006, 08:15 PM   #22
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I wonder how many of us are (or were) pilots? One of the things that drew me to an Airstream was the look and feel of the inside shape. I was a corporate pilot for 25 years, flying Citations, and Falcons. In the 345, I feel right at home.
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Old 07-19-2006, 04:30 PM   #23
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hmm...... I feel a new thread comign on.... Look for "Flyboys and Airstreams" or something to that effect.
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Old 07-20-2006, 05:26 PM   #24
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I've flown hang gliders for the last 11 years. The shape of the vessel is quite different, but the fascination with aerodynamics and aspiration to be independent/different are very much similar.

Anyway, problem not solved with the generator. It seems I was totally off with the points. Maybe it's running better, but it still dies. I have a float/valve problem. The needle gets stuck open or shut and either starves the motor of fuel or overflows into the venturi somehow, and kills the motor.

I'm going to buy a new needle and seat, try and get it to work right, and I'll let y'all know if it fixes the problem.

does anyone know of any tricks that I'm missing?

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Old 07-23-2006, 03:01 PM   #25
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Hate to butt in on you fly types, but I was wondering about the points in an Onan. It is my understanding that Onan makes a kit to convert the ignition to electronic. Does anyone have any experience with this?

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SEL, MEL, Commercial here too. Definately had an influence on the purchase of our 345 as it tends to influence other areas of my life (met the wife at flight school).

Kevin,
When I first got mine it would not run at all. I pulled the carb, removed the needles and blew about a can of carb cleaner through everything. It fired right up after re-installation and setting the needles to base setting.

Also check the control box (especially at night) for shorts. Last year I chased an intermittant short in the box which when vibrated enough would ground and kill the genny. Also look at the low oil sender and the R1 resistor.

Steve, I've not heard of a conversion kit. The points on mine have been pretty bulletproof but I'd be interested in how the conversion works out.
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Old 10-26-2006, 05:27 PM   #27
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I tried everything listed here. I swear, I'm not a dummy. I figured that I've spent 20 or so hours sitting next to this genset trying to tune it, and get it right. I think step one of 27 is to check the oil.
So I decide to give up and take it to the Onan shop at $97/hr.
I swear I'm not a dummy.
You ready?.... Low oil.

They told me this over the phone, I'm going to pick it up right now. I guess they're going to have to show me how to check the oil.

At least now I have new filters, plugs, points, hr. meter, and a clean carb and motor!

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Old 10-26-2006, 07:01 PM   #28
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I hate when that happens.
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