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Old 05-23-2015, 09:34 AM   #29
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Test drive a new F250 diesel.

Agree the new diesels since 2010 are quieter and the exhaust does not smell. The price for this is complex emissions systems like DPF (Diesel Particulate Filter) and SCR (Selective Catalytic Reduction) which requires DEF (Diesel Exhaust Fluid).

But your hands will still smell from diesel fuel if you get a drop on them because the stuff does not evaporate like gasoline.


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Old 05-23-2015, 10:27 AM   #30
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I have a couple of diesel tractors. Diesels STINK. The fuel stinks and the exhaust stinks. If you get a drop on your hands or clothes or shoes you stink untill you change or wash them. And diesels are NOISY. Way more noisy than a gasser. I would never want to be around a diesel as much as I am my daily driver gas pickup.
This was very true ... up to about 1983-4
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Agree the new diesels since 2010 are quieter and the exhaust does not smell. The price for this is complex emissions systems like DPF (Diesel Particulate Filter) and SCR (Selective Catalytic Reduction) which requires DEF (Diesel Exhaust Fluid).

But your hands will still smell from diesel fuel if you get a drop on them because the stuff does not evaporate like gasoline.


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Don't imagine that Gasoline is any better for you just because it isn't as smelly at the fuel end. The VOC and benzene compounds are giving you cancer faster than the diesel, and the the anti knock agents aren't extending your lifespan either.
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Old 05-23-2015, 02:19 PM   #32
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Think I might have mentioned this, but there is a reason, commercial, military and industrial applications use diesel.
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Old 05-23-2015, 02:40 PM   #33
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Which is best is really based on your intended use. Today diesels and their fuel is different than it used to be and yes there is little to no noise or smell. I have not owned a diesel motorhome or truck but I owned a diesel Mercedes and a 2010 diesel VW Jetta Sportwagen. My family owned diesels for years when I was young. On that latter choice I wanted Diesel and that was that. My father and the salesman tried to tell me otherwise, that I was overbuying for my need. They were correct. Nonetheless, in this discussion, if you plan to have the motorhome in storage a bit the diesel is great as the fuel is pretty much non "soured" with time. The problem that is being talked about in the diesel community, even in the diesel car community by those who care, is about the need for additives. Some use Urea and that costs along with the fuel raising overall operation costs. It adds up. Then those with the Bosh high pressure fuel systems got information that U.S. refineries did not meet the lubrication specifications of their pumps. VW has revised their pump at least four times since 2009. The refining process is different now that used to be for the clean diesel. VW for example does not use UREA but they use a burn off device in the exhaust system that has a life expectancy to deal with. The issue is that the old adage that diesels will run forever may have been true long ago but now often there are other essentials like the $10K Bosh fuel system on the VW or the specialized expensive exhaust or some such that makes it potentially much like the hybrid car with a very expensive battery- parts that one day need replacement to remain functional.
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Diesels STINK. The fuel stinks and the exhaust stinks.
All in the nose of the beholder, I guess. Diesel is a great smell. I wish I still had my 1983 Mercedes 300D Turbo. That thing ran like a top and was very comfortable.

I'll agree with you on one point, though....... I have a hard time sneaking up on Prius drivers with my 7.3L PowerStroke!
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Think I might have mentioned this, but there is a reason, commercial, military and industrial applications use diesel.

They learned from the Sherman tank Vs the panzer.
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Old 05-23-2015, 03:02 PM   #36
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Yep, clattery but a nice clattery. Mine was an Ivory '84 300CD Turbo. Beautiful coupe. Some well-dressed man who lived part-time on Sanibel Island bought mine. I miss it too. It was immaculate with the Palomino tan MB tex interior.
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It's all interesting but noise and smell are part of design function, mostly getting the most power. I have an A Series 3.4 liter Cummins 6 cylinder turbo diesel. It was designed for Onan back about 1980 and has no diesel rattle. I have it installed in a 1938 Ford COE truck. It is so quite that I don't even use a muffler, just a straight pipe. At idle the only way you can tell it's a diesel is to smell the exhaust. I like the diesel rattle myself but while driving the old truck about all you can hear is the air filter roar and of coarse the turbo whine.
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Thats very cool Dan, have you got a picture handy you can post of the 38 cab over
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Thats very cool Dan, have you got a picture handy you can post of the 38 cab over

Well I did some digging and found a few of a tour we went on Vancouver Island a few years back.

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Wow. Someone is having some fun. That is an impressive collection of autos.
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Wow. Someone is having some fun. That is an impressive collection of autos.
You know us guys like our toys.
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