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Old 08-06-2002, 09:48 PM   #15
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engine /transmission matrix

Great idea,I'm curious to know what engine and trans are in the various models...I would help out
if I knew how to identify the transmission,is there an id plate on it,or is it on the vin. in code or what.
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Old 08-07-2002, 06:43 AM   #16
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I will be adding a 26' column soon and adding a 26' Argosy to the site. Thanks to Hayseed I have photos and scanned in floorplans for 20', 24', and the 26' 1975 Argosys.
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'78 ARGOSY 28' MH

MY 28' 1978 ARGOSY MH HAS A 454/400. MY OWNERS MANUAL LISTS THE VIN# OPTION FOR A 350 OR 454 ENGINE. MY VIN SAYS IT IS A 350 BUT IT HAS THE ORIGNIAL 454 IN IT???????????
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Old 10-14-2002, 06:35 AM   #18
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Ed,

Welcome to the group! I know you've found a great resource for your MH!

My hunch is to almost all of the MH's ended up with the 454 engine. I have seen some 20' Argosy's out there with a 350. You may have a chasis that originally had a 350 but someone swapped it out for the 454. Your 28' would really struggle with a 350.
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6DB1

I don't know if this will help but the commercial Isuzu "F" series uses the same 6BD1 engine. Maybe their parts/systems are interchangable?
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Old 10-29-2002, 08:26 AM   #20
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Duramax Diesel

ALANSD, the Duramax diesel is an Isuzu designed engine built by Duramax Ltd., a division of General Motors. The engines are manufactured in Moraine, Ohio, near Dayton. They are also making a 7.8 L engine for medium duty trucks, as well as the 6.6L engine for pickups.
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We also have the 6BD1 turbo deisel by Isuzu 1983 31 ' We bought this from the original owner in 1995 he orfered it with the deisel. I have kept track of every fill up and we have been as high as 15mpg never lower than 11.5 and averaged almost 13mpg. We have people druling when we tell them. Of course they are noisy unlike the Duramax that you can hardly hear but thats ok.
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Engines, Tranmissions, Fuel Injection, Carburerators...

Fred,
Did you ever get a matrix worked out on what was available in what years?
The '92 in Tn on your site is a fuel injected 454 with an overdrive transmission... I forgot to take a pic of it to ID it... could it be the 4L80E? or is it an older Allison four speed? (I can't even remember the designator) I was under the mistaken impression that the FI was in only the later ('93 and up) Classics.
With 3 of the perhaps 12-14 diesel Classic 360's on the market now it seems to be a good time to be shopping!, The one on Fred's site is like new inside and underneath. But OMW the prices!.....

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Old 06-01-2005, 06:52 AM   #23
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.....) I was under the mistaken impression that the FI was in only the later ('93 and up) Classics.
I'm pretty sure that all of the Cheverolet year '86 P-3X Chassis were carbureted, and all of the '87 model year were Fuel Injection.

Be careful of "cusp" years - for instance, my '87 (Airstream nomenclature) is actually built on an '86 Chevy Chassis (last year of carbureation) - be sure to refer to the chassis in "Chevy" years, not "Airstream" years -

Even with reference to the proper year, it's amazing how many "parts" called out in auto store catalogues will not fit correctly.

It's much preferred to bring the old part into the store with you when replacing items to insure the correct item is purchased the first time -
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Those darned Auto Parts store computers (and people)

Dennis,

LOL, So true! I sell Auto Parts for Carquest. Our old computer database (Used by several other major parts houses) is often wrong. Paper catalogs are our Friends! Our hardware is so old that the keyboard uses the old style DIN plug (pre "PS2"). We input part numbers by hand, no barcode scanning. Hope is on the horizon! We have a new system in "Beta" phase now.... DSL... Intranet and limited Internet access, Easier lookup, Pictures of the parts, Easy error reporting. Jeeze, I sound as if I am selling it! Most of us are looking forward to it. Yes, bring your parts, PLEASE!!!!! Thanks!

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Carquest just bought WorldPak a major importer of OEM parts for imports of all kinds. This filled a major hole in our inventory/availability! OK, I will get off the soapbox and throw it away....
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Overdrive? Anyone? Anyone? Anyone?

What year were the overdrive transmissions first installed???? not counting the one offs like that beautiful 1989 with the factory 5.9 cummins in the front. I have seen it in the '92.... and jerry220ver says on eBay that his has an Allison.
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I think it was closer to the '89 chassis year when Chevy went to FI. They were way behind Ford and lost a bunch of medium duty business because of the lag in getting it to market. Same year was a transition to the 4L80E OD trans. Early '89 chassis had the turbo 400, later were OD. As Dennis said, an '89 chassis is most likely going to be titled as a 1990 motor home.

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I got this off the Workhorse site:

The 4L85E four-speed automatic transmission comes standard in all P Series platforms. It features electronic gear shifting and provides excellent performance, smoothness and flexibility as well as improved fuel economy. The transmission also kicks in an extra 1,000 lb. towing capacity for 17,000 lb. and 18,000 lb. GVWR models.

Of course that is for current models. Must get VIN's on any chassis I look at.

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Fred,
Did you ever get a matrix worked out on what was available in what years?
The '92 in Tn on your site is a fuel injected 454 with an overdrive transmission... I forgot to take a pic of it to ID it... could it be the 4L80E? or is it an older Allison four speed? (I can't even remember the designator) I was under the mistaken impression that the FI was in only the later ('93 and up) Classics.
With 3 of the perhaps 12-14 diesel Classic 360's on the market now it seems to be a good time to be shopping!, The one on Fred's site is like new inside and underneath. But OMW the prices!.....

C.T.
Not sure Fred's site is still actively updated .Seems I recall that he sold out awhile back. He had ambitous plans for his website I know. Would be nice to have an update on his status. He still posts on occasion and logs in regularly I think I have noticed.
Maybe he is planning on another Airstream?? If not I'd love to know why not.
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