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Old 11-19-2006, 10:19 AM   #57
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Just a little late!

Hi folks:

Oh no this is what I feared most - I took a final look at this post before going to work with the angle grinder - and have now cut one stay pretty much entirely from the front horizontal beam! No worry, once I remove the whole front end I think it will be a whole lot easier to remove the engine complete. Then I simply need slide the new lump in and weld it all back together and connect a few hoses and we're good to go... easy

As mentioned earlier, a lack of funds means this is not going to be a fast project, so I plan on doing a lot of other work while Ethyl's disassembled, so having the front off (providing she doesn't let go with a bang and shift her geometry massively) should make these tasks a great deal easier... am I convincing anyone else here?

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Old 11-19-2006, 11:38 PM   #58
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Hi, Andrew. Are you a Doctor or an Olympic Diver? You have a lot of guts diving right in and performing major surgery on Ethyl. Good luck on your adventures and may the rewards be great.

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Old 11-20-2006, 07:05 PM   #59
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hi andrew,i was thinking about geting that welded back ,when your done,
I bet you could get a mobile welder like a fence and railing co,to come to your house to sew that back up.If you call around enough you might find a guy who will do it on his way home,for a little cash.
I agree with bob nice job just diveing in and doing this
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Old 11-26-2006, 09:11 PM   #60
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Andrew,
Have been out of pocket for awhile and have just caught up with your latest thread on the motor apendectomy. Bummer!!!!!!!!!!! We had shared a thread about our respective unit generators shortly after we both purchased the Argosy's. I have absolutely nothing to add from a technical standpoint but, from reading the thread, you already have the "A" team on board anyway. My sole purpose for writing is to thank you for being an inspiration to some of us that have "weaker hearts" when confronted with challenges on our units. I really appreciate your "can do" attitude and willingness to share your story (success or otherwise). Speaking for myself, and probably others, your approach to this "temporary inconvenience" and the help being extended by other forum members is very motivating. Looking forward to seeing Ethyl come back together.
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Old 12-01-2006, 10:02 AM   #61
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Thanks to Stray and others for your continued support. A bad cold and cough (waa, waa, waa!) has prevented any recent adventures (being subject to each and every cold, bug and minor ailments is one of the wonders of having young kids in school, as I am sure many of you can attest) and a lack of spare funds under the mattress has dropped this project down the priority list a little, but I remain confident and determined and will keep you all posted of developments.

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Old 12-03-2006, 11:46 AM   #62
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454 engine life

Just a small thing that will add life to your new 454. You can get an oil pan off a dump or heavy duty truck with the 454(junk yrd). I just cut mine apart and added 2in. of depth (with a welded in 2" band of steel) to the sump. Then use a truck oil pump pickup and presto it now holds 8 Qts of oil. The pan will still be above the cross member so it's protected. The benfits are less chance of running out or low on oil, cooler running oil, longer change intervals, and as a result longer engine life. 454s are very hard on oil it runs very hot and just a quart low can damage the engine, I have rebuilt several where the oil simply cooked to jelly on a hard pull on a hot day. This mod along with quality oil will allow you to (I have several times) remove the oil cooler and it's adapter then install the 2qt. truck oil filter (it just screws on) you now hold 10 qts of much cooler running oil. You should also have the radiator re-cored, not just cleaned, as the new engine with better compression will make more heat. Just some things that worked for me.
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Old 12-03-2006, 04:49 PM   #63
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Thanks Gearhead:

Your suggestions make a lot of sense and I will see about implementing them.

No work this weekend due to many Christmas functions and commitments. If I don't get a chance beforehand, all the very best to you all over the coming Holidays.

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Old 12-29-2006, 09:30 AM   #64
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Did Santa bring you an engine?

or anything else for your MoHo? Are you going to try and come to 29 Palms in a few weeks?
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Old 12-29-2006, 12:52 PM   #65
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my 454 came with a 7 qt pan plus figure in the oil cooler add in another qt.
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Old 12-29-2006, 07:25 PM   #66
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Still alive & kicking

G'day and Merry Christmas:

Finally found some time to get back under Ethyl today and was rewarded with removal of the front end - by this I mean front bumper and plastic surround, which somehoe seems to be impossible to remove from bumper assemly. This is the state of things as of this moment:



What concerns me now is the cross member (indicated above) that appears riveted in position with whopping great half inch blond rivets. I can see no easy way to either remove (and replace it), or how to get the engine up over it if I am to use any sort of engine hoist/picker.

Of course I am also very concerned as to how the heck I am ever going to get it all back together?! There's a heck of a lot of parts...

I was hoping to get some more time this weekend, but the Missus has killed that idea off by arranging a large party to see in the New Years... oh well, as excuses go, I think I can live with that one!

Here's wishing you and yours a very Happy New Years.

Cheers from the Bridges Clan.
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Hi, I told you to take it out from the bottom! Anyway, you can cut, drill, or torch the rivits out of the cross member and reinstall it with grade eight bolts and self locking nuts.
Keep up the good work.


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so glad you are back at it! grinding off thoes rivet-heads should not be too hard,use a drift to drive them out.I got to say I dont know that you realy need to do all that ,I just picked up a 74 argosy,with no engine,and all that frame was still in place! So it must fit some how. Putting it all back will be all the fun. you have pictures and all our help.every thing clean. It will be a breeze.and a brand new engine! Wow
thanks for the update.
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Old 12-30-2006, 06:34 AM   #69
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I see you've got some of the engine disassembled. Once you get the cross brace out take the heads off. You should be able to attach the engine hoist to the top of the block and wiggle it out..... I say should.... as that's what I expect you'll be able to do. Just make the chain tight to the top of the block for the lift.
I'd give that a try before I went to the trouble of disassembling the frame further.
Have a Happy New Year, don't celebrate to hard.
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I'm with Glenn. Even with a tightly "engineered" fit these coach were meant to be serviced (engine R&R) without cutting up the frame. A long "van" engine picker in there...take off the pan, oil pump, etc. Remove the heads and manifold and it should go up and over.

Please try this before cutting up your frame even further.
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