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Old 08-04-2002, 04:33 PM   #15
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good idea, I will change it out...but the plastic crimp I put on was fine, it was the terminal on the solenoid itself that burnt off! The whole plastic cover on the solenoid is now gone...a plasticky ceramic thing that couldn't stand the heat.
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Old 08-06-2002, 11:40 AM   #16
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While I am on the subject, it looks like I will be rebuilding or replacing the starter and related wiring.
Anyone using the heat proof starters? Also what options for heat resistant wiring are out there? I would like to be able to use the copper crimp on ends, and wiring which will hold up longer under the manifold heat proximity.
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Old 08-06-2002, 05:38 PM   #17
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Alan,
before you spend the $$$ on the starter, you could consider wrapping the exaust with insulation to protect the starter from the heat. Just a thought. 74 Argosy24 has pictures posted of the wrapping he did on his headers.

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Old 08-06-2002, 09:30 PM   #18
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My motor has one of the small heat resistant starters on it, works great (not from CW). You can also get HD starters as rebuilds, they are about 1/3 the price and seem to hold up better than standard.

They make insulating blankets and metal heat shields for starters. If you are going to make new cables, there are fiberglass insulating 'tubes' that you can slip over the cable, similar to what are used on plug wires. I would mount them off the oil pan bolts with cushion clamps, that will keep them tight and as far from the exhaust as possible.

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Old 08-07-2002, 11:25 AM   #19
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Great advice....I have seen some of these smaller heavy duty starters for sale, on EBAY, also. Any problems installing them?
Flywheel considerations? I will have to do this real soon.
As for the wrap---your engine looks terrific. Is that stuff available at auto parts store, or is it a Hot Rod or tuner type thing....thanks
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Old 08-07-2002, 01:23 PM   #20
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There are different flywheel sizes. The one I got the starter nose could be changed to account for this. I still had to shim it quite a bit, but no hot start problems.

The wrap is pretty common, any hot rod shop will have it. Maybe Pep Boys, there are none around here so I am not sure. A good parts store might have it or should be able to order it. It is some nasty stuff to work with, be prepared to get full of it. After I was done I sprayed it with high termpeature paint to try and keep me more clean when I change plugs, etc.

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Old 08-07-2002, 04:45 PM   #21
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Thanks, while cruising the net I found the wrap at Advance auto parts along with the stainless tie wraps to hold it on, and they sell a silicone prep spray also recommended for the manifolds first. Might consider wrapping the manifolds on there now, and then seeing how it goes before doing headers later.
They also carry the aluminum wire sleeves ( heat resistant). I noticed that the disclaimer is the wraps void warranty on the headers.
And lastly- they carry a 36 x 40" heat screening mat you glue on as needed. Might be good around the front seat area nr the exhaust especially.
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In doing a little research for my "horn" project I have been looking into Teflon coated wiring. It has a working temperature of 200 degrees C.. This does not sound very high when you're running it over exhaust manifolds but high temperature automotive wiring is only rated at 125 C.. The problem of course, is the cost, I've been looking on eBay and there is quite a bit of it available. Just not exactly what I need. If you haven't worked with Teflon wiring before it's wonderful stuff. You can make a solder joint and no amount of heat will damage the insulation to.
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Heat resistant wiring

If you want truly heat resistant wire try wire with Kypton insulation on it. Should be good upwards of 1500 degrees F. It is used on F-16 A/C extensively in the engine bay as weel as other areas.

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OMG thanks

I just spent several hours with the "no lights" problum, also no horn!
I of course I ran to this forum a few times and BINGO!
I LOVE this forum. You people have saved me a lot of money, and more time!!!
Found a burnt wire in the starter and when I ran 12 volts to it the lights went on and the horn worked,
Looks like I'll be spending yet more time under the machine
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