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12-29-2005, 07:44 AM
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1 Rivet Member
1979 24' Airstream Excella 24
green cove spr
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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drive train rebuild....
I just bought a '79 24' excella moho and after inspection need the drive train, breaks and ball joints replaced to be safe. My question here is if antone have gone through this and what costs should I expect?
Thanks to all who respond.
-Bob
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12-29-2005, 08:14 AM
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4 Rivet Member
Commercial Member
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swebster
Bob,
I believe that Steven - forum name "swebster" - has been through most of this! Perhaps you can PM him!
Good Luck,
Henry
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12-29-2005, 09:10 AM
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Rivet Master
1978 31' Sovereign
Texas Airstream Harbor
, Zavalla, in the Deep East Texas Piney Woods on Lake Sam Rayburn
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dye904
I just bought a '79 24' excella moho ...what costs should I expect?
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I did the rear brakes and replaced the Master Cylinder a year and a few months ago. Total parts for the rears brakes (one rotor replaced), new (flexible) brake lines, and a new master cylinder was $620 - I have no idea what labor would be for this work.
Details here:
http://www.airforums.com/forum...akes-4658.html
I replaced the "new manufacture" MC installed above with a rebuild shorty before this thread:
http://www.airforums.com/forum...-up-14245.html
Tranny cost here:
http://www.airforums.com/forum...ost-11383.html
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"Suck it up, spend the bucks, do it right the first time."
WBCCI # 1113
AirForums #1737
Trailer '78 31' Sovereign
Living Large at an Airstream Park on the Largest Lake Totally Contained in Texas
Texas Airstream Harbor, Inc.
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12-29-2005, 09:45 AM
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Rivet Master
1994 30' Excella
Currently Looking...
Milwaukee
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Join Date: May 2004
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Bob-
Congratulations on your purchase, I can not help with your current questions but am very happy to hear that you will be bringing another classic back to life. I hope I can be of help to you in the future.
Kent
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Forest River Forester 2501TS
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12-29-2005, 05:02 PM
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RivetAddict
1986 34.5' Airstream 345
Louisville
, Kentucky
Join Date: Feb 2003
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Bob,
When you say "Drivetrain" what exactly do you mean? Engine/Tranny and all of the running gear or just from the tranny back, breaks, suspension, etc.?
While I have not had the pleasure of replacing an engine and transmission I've spent some quality time with the rest of my chassis and would be happy to throw in my 2 cents where helpful.
As far as the rest, there are menay members on the forum with far more knowledge than I when it comes to engines, transmissions, chassis, etc. who can help lend their collective brainpower.
Congradulations on your motorhome. I agree with Chaplain Kent in that its nice to see others who keep these things on the road.
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1986 Airstream 345 Classic Motorhome
AIR 1760
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12-29-2005, 06:02 PM
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Retired.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dye904
I just bought a '79 24' excella moho and after inspection need the drive train, brakes and ball joints replaced to be safe. My question here is if anyone have gone through this and what costs should I expect?
Thanks to all who respond.
-Bob
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Ball joints should cost around $40 each, plus installation.
Front pads (good ones) should also run around $40 in parts.
Rear shoes will probably run about the same, plus a core charge. If you do this yourself, make sure you only do one side at a time, so you can go to the other side and see how all those little clips and springs go back together.
Wheel cylinders should run about $30 or so, also plus labor, of course.
A front end alignment after the ball joints are replaced should be about $150.
Front shocks are about $40 each, rears should be about the same price.
Let me know if there is anything else you would like a ballpark price on.
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12-29-2005, 06:24 PM
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Rivet Master
1984 28' Funeral Coach
Belleview
, Florida
Join Date: Jun 2005
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dye904, welcome to the money pit!! Actually you'll never be so happy as to part with your hard earned cash. It's a labor of love.
After attempting to source parts at NAPA first for local supply you may also want to check with www.millsupply.com their Step Van parts supply is great.
Tell us more about the coach. How many miles? What condition is she in? Every MOHO has a story. We're all ears ... and a few of us have opinions too .
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1984 28' Funeral Coach
Former Rolling Showroom & PuttLab (now party bus)
"I'm not an expert. But I did sleep in an Airstream last night."
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12-30-2005, 06:33 AM
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1 Rivet Member
1979 24' Airstream Excella 24
green cove spr
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 19
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Hey, Thanks to all with your support and giving me a heads-up on costs. The "Beast" is at the shop and I'm waiting to hear what they will charge.
This '79 has been setting in a marina for 3 years as someone elses project. It has on the odometer 87k miles but I suspect more, the odometer needle bounces around (note to self-have replaced...) and makes a grinding noise.
Lots of rust, nothing seems to work, gen-set is there but needs rebuilt too.
Seats are worn, carpet has to go, fridge stinks(note to self-don't open again, just get a new one), toilet and plumbing are cracked and faded, no roof A/C, just a covered hole.....Outside is in great condition, no dents...just to start...
But, what I see, is one unique oppertunity, to see how much fun I can have, without scareing my wife too much...... We will both enjoy the trip, even if it ends up in the backyard as a spare room.....
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12-30-2005, 03:33 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 26' Overlander
Woodstock
, Georgia
Join Date: Feb 2002
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The "shop" prices may scare you a bit, but we have all been thru that. You may find with coaching you can do a lot of the work yourslef, IF you are up for it. If you are not mechanically minded , there are still many things you can do to improve your rig cosmetically of course. Good luck and ask away as needed!
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01-01-2006, 08:01 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1985 34.5' Airstream 345
Marietta
, Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2004
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"But, what I see, is one unique oppertunity, to see how much fun I can have, without scareing my wife too much...... We will both enjoy the trip, even if it ends up in the backyard as a spare room"
These things are definitely unique and in my mind worth every penny. I have found that if everytime you buy something or fix something on the moho you do the same for the misses it helps, or at least in my case it does. Good luck!
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01-06-2006, 10:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 85/345
I have found that if everytime you buy something or fix something on the moho you do the same for the misses it helps, or at least in my case it does. Good luck!
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So how did installing clearance lights on your wife turn out?
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01-08-2006, 07:03 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1985 34.5' Airstream 345
Marietta
, Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by overlander63
So how did installing clearance lights on your wife turn out?
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Thanks we both needed that, I guess I should have phrased that a little different.
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01-17-2006, 06:22 AM
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1 Rivet Member
1979 24' Airstream Excella 24
green cove spr
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 19
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Hey Guys!
I got a prelim quote the other day of $2500.00. This will rebuild the front end, new shocks, turn rotors, and new breaks, rear end new drums,shocks and breaks. front and rear u-joints, also includes a rebuilt carburator, and all labor..... He says may need a new master cylinder to add app.$300,00.
So far I feel good with this cost..
I told him am gonna replace all the tires and go with aluminum wheels (16"),
He suggested that I go up to 19" wheels, didnt think I could do this...
Has anyone done this to a 24' p-30? What would I gain by doing it?
Any thoughts about what he is doing or missing? You guys have been very helpful, thanks again in advance!
Bob and Rosie
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01-17-2006, 06:41 AM
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RivetAddict
1986 34.5' Airstream 345
Louisville
, Kentucky
Join Date: Feb 2003
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Wow - I paid a shop $1000 for just a front caliper replacement. (That was the last time the MoHo went to an RV Dealership for work). If the mechanic is reputable and knows the P30 then it seems like a great price to me.
I've done almost all of the work decribed myself and none of it is fun or glamorous (read heavy lifting, dirt, grease, skinned knuckles and about a million trips to the parts store to get everything I needed).
I didn't do everything at once so it wasn't a single huge project. But the labor hours involved is huge.
The larger MoHos (325, 345) came with an option for the Alcoa 19.5" wheels. They make them for the GM ten bolt rear and five bolt front hubs. Of course this means new tires.
Not sure if you would gain anything functionally with the Alcoas. I think they have a higher weight rating (2750 lbs per rim) but your chassis/suspension would hit it's limit before the wheels did.
I personally like the "look" of the 19.5" wheels. They seem to fill the fender well better and just look" right" to me.
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1986 Airstream 345 Classic Motorhome
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01-18-2006, 05:38 AM
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Rivet Master
1966 26' Overlander
Woodstock
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What would going to 19.5 wheel do to your speedometer calibration? Might have to ask before doing the change.
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01-18-2006, 12:17 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1979 24' Airstream Excella 24
green cove spr
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 19
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My repair shop is having trouble finding a replacement carburator for the 454.
Seems like it would be a common item..........
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01-18-2006, 12:26 PM
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Just a member
1978 28' Argosy 28
Lutz
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dye904
My repair shop is having trouble finding a replacement carburator for the 454.
Seems like it would be a common item..........
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Edelbrock makes a bolt on replacement(1304??). It is not a quadrajet, but it works great and parts are not an issue. I converted form the hot air choke to an electric choke with a minimum of fuss. The biggest hassle is getting the jetting set right because the ports face forward and you are sitting behind the engine to do it.
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01-19-2006, 06:30 AM
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Rivet Master
1984 28' Funeral Coach
Belleview
, Florida
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dye904
My repair shop is having trouble finding a replacement carburator for the 454.
Seems like it would be a common item..........
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Try http://summitracing.com/ they've got what you need.... and lots of stuff you don't need. But if you're into performance they can't be beat.
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Glen Coombe AIR #8416
1984 28' Funeral Coach
Former Rolling Showroom & PuttLab (now party bus)
"I'm not an expert. But I did sleep in an Airstream last night."
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01-19-2006, 07:01 AM
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RivetAddict
1986 34.5' Airstream 345
Louisville
, Kentucky
Join Date: Feb 2003
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Summit or Jegs ( www.jegs.com). They have a replacement QJet as well as "tuned" rebuilts for towing.
You can also get a rebuild kit for about $50 from NAPA. Just bring them the number from the casing. (Of course, paying your mechanic hourly to rebuild a carb would likely exceed the cost of a bolt on replacement)
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1986 Airstream 345 Classic Motorhome
AIR 1760
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11-08-2006, 07:02 AM
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1 Rivet Member
1979 24' Airstream Excella 24
green cove spr
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 19
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Well I finally got my rv back today. Started out as a $2500 rebuild ended up just over $6700. I now have an almost new drive train, carb., airbags, shocks, springs and all. Has taken over a year but now the next phaze starts.
I will need, Driver/ passenger seats, sleeper sofa, gen-set, window slider stuff, toilet seat, shower, fridge, and many many more....
Best news is it fits under the RV port I had built.
I am still smiling, and have the most understanding wife a man could ask for!
And.... I will be back here searching this great website.
-Bob
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