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DaveFL · 06-27-2013, 04:04 PM

Found under MH near passenger side wheel, maybe somebody that has crawled around more than me can identify and I can replace. If an animal didn't drag it under the motorhome it fell off, question is where?

bkahler · 06-27-2013, 04:55 PM

If you were talking about a 74 Argosy motorhome I would say it could be part of the parking brake cable system but since you're talking about a late model rig that's out of the question.

Not sure what kind of parking brake system you have but I'm guessing it's on the back of the transmission so it could possibly be a return spring of some sort for the drum.

Hopefully someone will post with some useful information soon

Brad

RM66caravel · 06-27-2013, 05:34 PM

Looks like a brake spring! Good luck

shepherd57 · 06-27-2013, 06:34 PM

Looks like the return spring for the brake pedal

is.chowa · 06-29-2013, 09:28 PM

Dave,

Will have a look in AM

Steve

92landyacht · 06-30-2013, 07:06 AM

Dave,

Let me know as soon as you find out what it is. I just found a very similar spring laying under my 92 LY MH after I move it.

KeithC · 06-30-2013, 01:46 PM

I think there was a hook on the left side of the spring that has broke off. I have seen similar springs used to tension parking brake cables and used inside drum brakes.

BAB · 06-30-2013, 06:05 PM

Having handled many of these, it sure looks like part of a brake spring...and the older they get the more brittle they become and break off just like your photo.

DaveFL · 07-01-2013, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BAB

Having handled many of these, it sure looks like part of a brake spring...and the older they get the more brittle they become and break off just like your photo.

Thought that too, except I knew I have 4 wheel disc brakes and no springs in them. Looked in the parts manual and found similar spring in the parking brake foot pedal but only problem is I don't have one and it is inside like the regular foot brake pedal spring.

DaveFL · 07-01-2013, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by KeithC

I think there was a hook on the left side of the spring that has broke off. I have seen similar springs used to tension parking brake cables and used inside drum brakes.

Keith, it is broken off, either a short or long hook but not able to find it hanging anywhere in the front area, and it would be too small to see in the gravel under the rig. Maybe it worked its way up from the gravel(crushed limerock).

shepherd57 · 07-01-2013, 09:38 AM

Have you checked to see if your brake pedal is returning properly. There is a spring on the left side ahead of the master cly. The spring attaches to the rod that goes up through the floor. I will take a picture of mine later. Mine was missing when I bought my coach. Luckily I had one on the 77 Argosy I am scraping.

Here is a pic you can see the rod that goes up to the brake pedal, The steering box is on the left

bkahler · 07-01-2013, 07:43 PM

John, that's interesting. I need to check the 310 to see if the spring is there. I don't recall seeing one in that location. On my Argosy I have no way of knowing if one was there originally or not. Someone else took that area apart before I got it.

Do you have the part number of the spring?

shepherd57 · 07-01-2013, 08:34 PM

No I don't have a part # when I had my 75 Argosy I noticed the spring. And when I bought my 32.5 the PO had a bungee to pull the brake pedal back when I checked I couldn't find the spring. So I checked the 77 Argosy and it still had the spring so I used it on the 32 and the pedal works fine now.

I think all of the coaches must have had the same spring and they just rusted away, And unless there was a problem with the master cly it probably went unnoticed

If the master cly looses pressure as in my coach the pedal will go to the floor and without the spring it won't return unless you pull it back manually that is why they had the bungee cord.

DaveFL · 07-01-2013, 09:39 PM

Pedal comes up normal to me, I will check in the morning, too many mosquitos out there tonight.

Steve Bryant · 07-01-2013, 10:23 PM

I am assuming that you have rear drum brakes. It looks like a brake shoe return spring (based on the length and diameter). But a brake shoe return spring would normally be inside the drum. You mention the passenger side, but where was it? Was it near the front wheels, the rear wheels or somewhere else? What kind of parking brake do you have on the motor home?

Steve

DaveFL · 07-02-2013, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by shepherd57

Have you checked to see if your brake pedal is returning properly. There is a spring on the left side ahead of the master cly. The spring attaches to the rod that goes up through the floor. I will take a picture of mine later. Mine was missing when I bought my coach. Luckily I had one on the 77 Argosy I am scraping.

Here is a pic you can see the rod that goes up to the brake pedal, The steering box is on the left

Thanks for the info and picture, attaching picture of area on yours, mine is similar but no hooking points, so I tested the pedal with my hand and it has two motions hydraulic and a spring to lift it, my spring must be inside, but can't see due to congested wires in area under dash.
My picture shows it as a protected from splash area. Spring was found under passenger side so the auto brake mechanism needs a closer inspection.

DaveFL · 07-02-2013, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Bryant

I am assuming that you have rear drum brakes. It looks like a brake shoe return spring (based on the length and diameter). But a brake shoe return spring would normally be inside the drum. You mention the passenger side, but where was it? Was it near the front wheels, the rear wheels or somewhere else? What kind of parking brake do you have on the motor home?

Steve

disc brakes on back too, it was near passenger side front wheel, auto park brake uses hydraulic pressure to un-apply, brakedown of switch causes brake to lockup transmission shaft with a drum brake that totally encloses the driveshaft.

Steve Bryant · 07-02-2013, 03:51 PM

Dave,
Do you think that this spring could be off something else other than your motorhome?

Steve

is.chowa · 07-06-2013, 05:48 AM

Hi Dave:

Slithered under rig yesterday and could not see any springs attached nor any attachment points. Paid particular attention to brake are and nothing. Had the oilcooler lines replaced and was checking for leaks, so had a good close look at everything.

The only place that type of spring could be used is in the shoe assembly of the A/P drum brake end of tranny.

Regards

Steve

DaveFL · 07-07-2013, 06:21 AM

Thanks Steve,
My A/P drum is completely closed both ends with no way for it to get out if was installed inside.
Dave
P.S. 50 amp conversion hit a snag, ebay auto transfer switch installed but on startup testing it is sticking on one set of points, should have tested before starting job, my trust on new electrical equipment to work is at fault.