Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 08-09-2006, 12:40 PM   #1
Rivet Master
 
Chaplain Kent's Avatar
 
1994 30' Excella
Currently Looking...
Milwaukee , Wisconsin
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,934
Brake Pedal Stuck To Floor

For many reasons, we have not been able to take Chummy out for his regular camping trips this summer. I went to move him yesterday and found that the brake pedal was stuck to the floor as well as the brakes locked up tight. I did have the front brakes replaced in Georgia but drove quite a few miles on them after that with no problems. Any ideas?
__________________

__________________
Chaplain Kent
2015 Coachman Freedom Express 19RBS, Chummy IV- Ford Excursion- 7.3 Turbo-diesel
Chaplain Kent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2006, 01:14 PM   #2
Rivet Master
 
1984 31' Excella
Norfolk , Virginia
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 667
Images: 11
Brake Pedal Stuck to floor

I am completely uneducated about the running gear and brakes on your motor home, however, you probally have hydraulic brakes. These brakes are probally boosted (power) by one of two ways, Vacuum or Hydraulic (pressure supplied by the power steering pump), this you will have to determine. Some diesel powered vehicles had vacuum pumps to supply the vacuum to the vacuum brake booster. Others used the power steering pump to supply hydraulic to a demand valve on the master cylinder that supplied the power brake function.
The pedal fully depressed is different, hower it can be caused by a failure of the vacuum valve in the vacuum booster or in the case of the hydraulic boost, a valve has failed. Both would cause the brakes to be applied fully because the failed valves you used to control by placing your foot on the brake pedal.
If the unit has a vacuum booster, remove the vacuum supply from the booster and plug off the vacuum line. If the vacuum booster has failed, the pedal should return to the un depressed position (all the way up). If this is the case, the booster is probally bad.
If you have the hydraulic booster, General Motors used them in the early days of the neardiesel and they gave trouble. You will have to go to on of the guys that have had experience, however if the power steering pump belt only runs the power steering pump, remove the belt and if the problem goes away (CAUTION YOU WILL NOT HAVE ANY POWER STEERING WITH THE BELT REMOVED) the hydraulic booster at the master cylinder is bad.
Thats the best I can do.
Beginner
__________________

__________________
Beginner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2006, 01:42 PM   #3
4 Rivet Member
 
bobchevy89's Avatar
 
1977 24' Argosy 24
Inverness , Florida
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 264
Hello,
I had the same problem on my 77 argosy. Cost mr $1200.00 to fix. $800.00 for new Hydroboost,$200.00 for new master cylender,$200.00 for new rubber brake lines.(brake lines had balooned in side not letting pressure to release)For your safety and others take it to a garage that can do it right..Brakes are not something to fool with , you can kill yourself and family or some one inocent.
Hope this helps
bobchevy89
__________________
bobchevy89 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2006, 03:29 PM   #4
Rivet Master
 
1984 31' Excella
Norfolk , Virginia
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 667
Images: 11
Brake Pedal Stuck to Floor

I agree.
Take it to a capable repair shop that you trust.
Beginner
__________________
Beginner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2006, 09:46 PM   #5
Rivet Master
 
GlenCoombe's Avatar
 
1984 28' Funeral Coach
Belleview , Florida
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,635
Images: 27
Oh that is a strange one for sure Kent! I'm curious as to what they used too. Did they stay with the P30 hydroboost setup or did they do something with the Izuzu setup to make it different and harder to find parts for?
Do figure out if it's hydroboost....if so you can rebuild some of them and often find parts cheaper than the more expensive refits.
Check out millsupply.com for pump/reservoirs. With any luck at all it's master cyl. time and or brake line time.
Let us know as the saga continues.
__________________
Glen Coombe AIR #8416
1984 28' Funeral Coach
Former Rolling Showroom & PuttLab (now party bus)
"I'm not an expert. But I did sleep in an Airstream last night."
GlenCoombe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2006, 02:13 PM   #6
Rivet Master
 
Chaplain Kent's Avatar
 
1994 30' Excella
Currently Looking...
Milwaukee , Wisconsin
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,934
I have disc brakes on all four wheels.
__________________
Chaplain Kent
2015 Coachman Freedom Express 19RBS, Chummy IV- Ford Excursion- 7.3 Turbo-diesel
Chaplain Kent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2006, 05:57 PM   #7
Rivet Master
 
guy99's Avatar
 
1984 31' Airstream310
Dunsmuir , California
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,336
Images: 16
Kent,
Did you resolve this or do you have it awaiting your complete recovery?

Hope you are still doing well.
__________________
If you want others to be happy, practice compassion.
If you want to be happy, practice compassion - The Dalai Lama

1984 310 Limited Motorhome
Courtesy Parking (W/S/E/Wi-Fi) on I-5 in Northern California, 70 miles from Oregon border
guy99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2006, 09:13 AM   #8
Rivet Master
 
Chaplain Kent's Avatar
 
1994 30' Excella
Currently Looking...
Milwaukee , Wisconsin
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,934
This along with a fuse, steering stabilizer, and nagging electrical short remains unsolved. I am not even certain where the keys are to Chummy, my wife may have hidden them.
__________________
Chaplain Kent
2015 Coachman Freedom Express 19RBS, Chummy IV- Ford Excursion- 7.3 Turbo-diesel
Chaplain Kent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2006, 10:02 AM   #9
Rivet Master
 
guy99's Avatar
 
1984 31' Airstream310
Dunsmuir , California
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,336
Images: 16
Well, I hope you are soon doing so well that your wife will turn the keys over to you!

I don't know what your steering stabilizer issue is but when I replaced mine with a bilstein it made a tremendous difference.
__________________
If you want others to be happy, practice compassion.
If you want to be happy, practice compassion - The Dalai Lama

1984 310 Limited Motorhome
Courtesy Parking (W/S/E/Wi-Fi) on I-5 in Northern California, 70 miles from Oregon border
guy99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2006, 10:12 AM   #10
Rivet Master<br><img src="/ugala/forums/images/5rivet.gif">
 
CanoeStream's Avatar

 
2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud , Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,279
Images: 19
Blog Entries: 3
Wink

Chaplain Kent -- Your last post has been reviewed as it raises concerns that may violate supportive Airstream therapies. If you have a grievance with a family member please report it to a moderator. Have your wife take a moment to review the forum policies that you agreed to when you joined. We take the "be nice" rule very seriously.

Glad you're making it to the computer. Still wishing you the best!
Bob
__________________
CanoeStream is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2006, 10:25 AM   #11
3 Rivet Member
 
Currently Looking...
2005 22' Interstate
Afton , Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 226
Perhaps your wife has read the post that read "brake pedal stuck to floor" and thinks the advice in other posts about "taking it to a repair shop" might involve driving it. Personally, I'd look for a mechanic that makes house calls!
Hope you'll be back on the road soon.
regards
__________________
herrgirdner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2006, 06:44 AM   #12
Rivet Master
 
Chaplain Kent's Avatar
 
1994 30' Excella
Currently Looking...
Milwaukee , Wisconsin
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,934
Chummy was taken to the shop with a rope tied to his brake pedal which allowed the driver to pull up on it after each application. The mechanic first wanted to replace the vacuum boost at $1,000 dollars but then noticed the rear calipers were stuck and a crimp in the vacuum line. He replaced the rear brakes and calipers, straightened the line and the brakes work fine. His good eyes saved me the $1,000.00! Although the bill did reach the $1,300 range but that included the steering damper. Now we can stop and steer and I can not wait to get out camping again.
__________________
Chaplain Kent
2015 Coachman Freedom Express 19RBS, Chummy IV- Ford Excursion- 7.3 Turbo-diesel
Chaplain Kent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2006, 06:56 AM   #13
4 Rivet Member
 
Robfike's Avatar
 
1986 34.5' Airstream 345
Speedway , Indiana
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 421
That's great news! That was sure a wierd one.
__________________
Robfike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2006, 08:25 AM   #14
Rivet Master
 
ALANSD's Avatar

 
1966 26' Overlander
Woodstock , Georgia
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 8,463
glad to hear that, the Fall season should not be missed.. we are ready for our first venture out in the trailer..
__________________

__________________
1966 Overlander
AIR #005
Please visit our blogs and web pages:
OUR AIRSTREAM PASSION! BLOG
RESTORING AN AIRSTREAM
Our AIRSTREAM and TIN CAN TOURIST Rallys
ALANSD is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Question re new floor fitting on our 1958 Traveller williamhenshall Repairing/Replacing Floor &/or Frame 9 06-30-2004 04:08 PM
When lacking a floor to make a template... JrnymnJay Repairing/Replacing Floor &/or Frame 6 11-30-2002 07:28 PM
Front floor area and rebuilding dresser jeanarlene 1969 - 1973 Safari 10 09-05-2002 12:11 PM
Total floor replace 74Argosy24MH Repairing/Replacing Floor &/or Frame 1 06-27-2002 05:05 PM
Electric Brake Controller Problem Don Brakes & Brake Controllers 4 04-15-2002 02:05 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:46 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.