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04-17-2019, 04:02 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1972 31' Excella 500
2017 30' Classic
Grapeview
, Washington
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 456
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IMHO ARB (CKMTP12). Hard to beat, gets the job done quickly w/rock solid performance. I found best pricing from 4wd.com.
https://www.4wd.com/p/arb-twin-motor...R-BHWQ-CKMTP12
Safe travels and best regards
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2017 Classic
2016 RAM 3500 6.7
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04-17-2019, 06:31 PM
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Rivet Master
2000 25' Safari
Davidson County
, NC Highlands County, FL
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,493
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Another vote for VIAIR 400. I have a kit. (carry bag, extra hose, extension cord, changeable tips)
I bought some of the cheaper brands, and every couple of years replaced them.
My VIAIR is more than 10 years old and still going strong.
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2014 Silverado LTZ 1500 Crew Cab 5.3L maximum trailering package
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04-18-2019, 12:08 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2020 25' Globetrotter
Half-timer from
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Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ghaynes755
Added an inline pressure regulator to regulate to 55#'s or so and have had no issues.
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Can anyone recommend a compressor that has a built in pressure switch that will turn off the compressor when it reaches a preset pressure? Then after the pressure falls, it would start again to bring it back up to the preset pressure.
I’m looking for one that will pressurize my solar hot water tank and hold it at 40 psi while I’m showering. As I understand it, a regulator would keep the line pressure constant but the compressor would still run continuously until I shut it off manually.
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04-18-2019, 01:08 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2016 25' Flying Cloud
z
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 177
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dumbclub
Can anyone recommend a compressor that has a built in pressure switch that will turn off the compressor when it reaches a preset pressure? Then after the pressure falls, it would start again to bring it back up to the preset pressure.
I’m looking for one that will pressurize my solar hot water tank and hold it at 40 psi while I’m showering. As I understand it, a regulator would keep the line pressure constant but the compressor would still run continuously until I shut it off manually.
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I am sure I will be corrected, I believe any compressor you buy now days will have an adjustable regulator,that will let you do what you want.
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04-18-2019, 01:14 PM
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Figment of My Imagination
2012 Interstate Coach
From All Over
, More Than Anywhere Else
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 10,868
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dumbclub
I’m looking for one that will pressurize my solar hot water tank and hold it at 40 psi while I’m showering. As I understand it, a regulator would keep the line pressure constant but the compressor would still run continuously until I shut it off manually.
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You do not want a compressor for this. You want an accumulator tank, which has an air bladder inside. As water flows into the accumulator tank, the air bladder is compressed. Then, as you run water out of it, the compressed air in the bladder maintains your water pressure. https://www.amazon.com/Seaflo-Accumu...KD0K1FRRK3PS29
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04-18-2019, 05:33 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 28' Flying Cloud
2018 33' Classic
Cumming
, Georgia
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 518
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Viair is great; just don’t let pistons get wet-it will corrode.
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04-18-2019, 07:33 PM
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Rivet Master
2000 25' Safari
Davidson County
, NC Highlands County, FL
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,493
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dumbclub
Can anyone recommend a compressor that has a built in pressure switch that will turn off the compressor when it reaches a preset pressure? Then after the pressure falls, it would start again to bring it back up to the preset pressure.
I’m looking for one that will pressurize my solar hot water tank and hold it at 40 psi while I’m showering. As I understand it, a regulator would keep the line pressure constant but the compressor would still run continuously until I shut it off manually.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Protagonist
You do not want a compressor for this. You want an accumulator tank, which has an air bladder inside. As water flows into the accumulator tank, the air bladder is compressed. Then, as you run water out of it, the compressed air in the bladder maintains your water pressure. https://www.amazon.com/Seaflo-Accumu...KD0K1FRRK3PS29
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Some old trailers were made with a metal water tank up front, on top of the floor. They used air pressure from a pump/air compressor, no accumulator. They were designed that way. The original, a piston air compressor, was made by Grover Pump which is no longer available new. Occasionally one will come up for sale on Ebay.
I think a small compressor with really good pressure regulator would do the job. I do not know enough specifics about pressure regulators to make a recommendation on which would be proper.
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2014 Silverado LTZ 1500 Crew Cab 5.3L maximum trailering package
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04-21-2019, 12:10 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2004 28' International CCD
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 29
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I’m about to pull the trigger on the Viair 400p automatic model my only concern is the Viair website says the winterizing kit only works with the 400p or 450p automatic RV models. Has anyone used the Winterizing kit with the none RV version of the 400p?
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04-21-2019, 12:12 PM
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2 Rivet Member
Southern
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Join Date: Sep 2011
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I agree that Viair makes nice "compressors" (that's what Viair calls them).
There have been several comments about "if only they had," or "this feature isn't useful," but they make many variations.
A nice thing about Viair is their website - https://www.viaircorp.com/portables - which is worth a visit. You can choose the one that best suits your needs and preferences, such things as what the cfm at your desired pressure, type of hose fittings, and duty cycle are presented there. You can also visit permanent compressors they make if that's the direction you want.
We chose the 70P because: Instead of a long hose, it has a long cord, which is easier to store. Its cfm at the pressures we use, 50-60 psi, is strong and it has a reasonable duty cycle. But mostly because of its size - it fits inside the spare tire compartment on our TV. The surprise was that it performs nicely to air up after off-road excursions - so much that we can air up our entire 4WD club before we re-hit the road. We use battery clips on the RV battery to reach every tire on the TV and RV; short hose is a plus.
Your needs may vary, but a visit to their site will steer you in the right direction.
Good luck.
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04-21-2019, 12:17 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2016 25' Flying Cloud
z
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 177
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Quote:
Originally Posted by runtime
I’m about to pull the trigger on the Viair 400p automatic model my only concern is the Viair website says the winterizing kit only works with the 400p or 450p automatic RV models. Has anyone used the Winterizing kit with the none RV version of the 400p?
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I believe all the 400p are the same, they just package them with more accessories like the RV.
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04-21-2019, 12:41 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' Globetrotter
Driftless Area
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 783
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I had the 450 but returned it. Took me 45 minutes to top off the tires. I decided the 100% duty cycle was not necessary for my purposes.
Ordered the 400. I have an 88p from many years ago and used it once; it too took too long.
The small air pumps are great—can’t knock them for size. They just don’t push much air and take too long. Great for bikes though.
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04-21-2019, 02:28 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1998 31' Excella 1000
Simpsonville
, South Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 109
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AirMiles
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AirMiles have you use this compressor at home to winterize your rig with. I have a 20 gallon with 2hp motor compressor it's on wheels at home that I'm using now, but it's heavy and awkward to use at 75 years old. I have a little DC inflater for tires, but slow. I have a Honda 2200 to power it if would work. Kill two birds with one stone, maybe ?
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04-21-2019, 04:03 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1976 Argosy 26
Henderson
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 180
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I like my small Craftsman Air Boss 1.2 gal. Light weight. A little pricy but Craftsman has a 3 gal horizontal tank, for $79; or 6 gal pancake pancake but got to have an electricit6 source like a Honda generator or the plug in my Chevy.
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04-21-2019, 07:24 PM
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Prof. of Pending Projects
2018 Tommy Bahama Interstate
Orlando
, Florida
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 2,658
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I went with an ARB unit. Has worked great so far.
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04-22-2019, 05:54 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Berlin
, Maryland
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,787
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So the question is which one have you or will buy
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04-22-2019, 06:31 AM
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Rivet Master
2000 25' Safari
Davidson County
, NC Highlands County, FL
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,493
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dumbclub
Can anyone recommend a compressor that has a built in pressure switch that will turn off the compressor when it reaches a preset pressure? Then after the pressure falls, it would start again to bring it back up to the preset pressure.
I’m looking for one that will pressurize my solar hot water tank and hold it at 40 psi while I’m showering. As I understand it, a regulator would keep the line pressure constant but the compressor would still run continuously until I shut it off manually.
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This is the company that made the air compressor for the 1950's-1960's trailers, those that had an air compressor instead of a water pump to move the water.
https://www.airhorns.com/prod_detail...compre&pn=1167
The original pump was model number 1393. I do not see that one, but you might give them a call to see if they can provide.
ps:
seems to me that the pressure limit switch would need to be changed on those that Grover offers now, to limit at 40 to 50 psi, to make one of these work.
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2014 Silverado LTZ 1500 Crew Cab 5.3L maximum trailering package
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04-22-2019, 04:25 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2018 28' Flying Cloud
Mahomet
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Join Date: Jun 2011
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thanks for all the info so far. New question: Looks like Viar 400P is best price for those Viar units. The Viar website says only 400P-RV and 450P-RV can be used for winterizing. They are another $100 or so. Do any of you use your 400P to winterize? How do you get the pressure to the city water inlet. I have a valve to screw in there as usual.
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04-22-2019, 04:47 PM
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Rivet Master
2000 25' Safari
Davidson County
, NC Highlands County, FL
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,493
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wtrclrptr
thanks for all the info so far. New question: Looks like Viar 400P is best price for those Viar units. The Viar website says only 400P-RV and 450P-RV can be used for winterizing. They are another $100 or so. Do any of you use your 400P to winterize? How do you get the pressure to the city water inlet. I have a valve to screw in there as usual.
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I do not use mine for winterizing. I use it to inflate tires, balls, floats, etc.
I winterize the trailer at home where I have a large compressor. I only use air for blowing from the hose hookup to purge water through the pressure regulator and out through the first low point drain (that will not fill with antifreeze from the pump). All of the other pipes gravity drain then I fill with antifreeze, using the water pump with a winterizing kit.
(edit- I have used it for winterizing on the road, to purge less than 10' of pipe to the first low point drain. Air flow is fairly low ~1.? cfm, so it takes opening and closing the low point valve a couple times while pressure builds enough to push the water)
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2014 Silverado LTZ 1500 Crew Cab 5.3L maximum trailering package
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04-24-2019, 03:25 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 30' International
redondo beach
, California
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 772
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"I got tiered of burning out my compressors, so I upgraded to the Dewalt 60VMax battery powered 2.5 gallon unit (DCC2560T1). It's bigger than the other portable options, but it works well. I'm hoping it will last a while. It's expensive, once you buy the unit, batteries, hose and attachments.
https://www.dewalt.com/products/gear...-kit/dcc2560t1"
We also use this along with a Dewalt impact wrench. It takes about 10 min to fill our very flat truck tire.
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04-24-2019, 03:35 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2018 25' International
Mound
, Minnesota
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 236
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Quote:
Originally Posted by czunc
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^^^ we do this too.
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