Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 11-24-2015, 09:33 PM   #1
Airstream Driver
 
PeterH-Airstreamer's Avatar

 
1997 30' Excella
1983 31' Airstream310
Austin , Texas
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,375
Images: 51
Ball joint replacement

The Moog upper and lower ball joints arrived and I am planning on installing them in the near future.
Napa has a loaner tool kit to press the new ones in, getting the old ones out appears to require a specialty tool.
Anyone done this ?
__________________

__________________
1990 29' Excella Trailer
1996 Airstream B190
1997 30' Excella Trailer
AIR #13
PeterH-Airstreamer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2015, 11:13 PM   #2
Rivet Master
 
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Hanalei, /Chino Valley , Hawaii / Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 957
Moving forward as usual Peter. :-)

I just changed tie rods on my Porsche. To separate the ball joint at the outboard ends I used a special tool. It's a wedge shaped tool .
With a slot in the center section and a stout handle that you pound on to drive the sharp end of the wedge into the center gap of the ball joint till it pops open.

Maybe a truck parts store would have a big one to rent.

Keep us posted on how this job goes for you.

Cheers Richard
__________________

__________________
tevake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2015, 04:10 AM   #3
Well Preserved

 
1993 21' Sovereign
Colfax , North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 20,192
A ball joint separator can be used, or if you are fairly coordinated, you can loosen the castellated nut on the ball joint, and whack the hell out of the spindle where the ball joint is attached.
__________________
Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup.
Terry
overlander63 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2015, 04:41 AM   #4
Rivet Master
 
mayco's Avatar

 
1982 31' Airstream 310
champaign , Illinois
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 2,761
We call them a pickle fork around these here parts

Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByAirstream Forums1448448072.930262.jpg
Views:	53
Size:	38.7 KB
ID:	252836


Sent from my iPad using Airstream Forums
__________________
mayco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2015, 05:55 AM   #5
Airstream Driver
 
PeterH-Airstreamer's Avatar

 
1997 30' Excella
1983 31' Airstream310
Austin , Texas
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,375
Images: 51
These can not be removed with a picklefork nor by impact with a hammer, since the balljoint housing itself is pressed into place
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	balljoint.jpg
Views:	42
Size:	103.7 KB
ID:	252837  
__________________
1990 29' Excella Trailer
1996 Airstream B190
1997 30' Excella Trailer
AIR #13
PeterH-Airstreamer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2015, 06:00 AM   #6
Well Preserved

 
1993 21' Sovereign
Colfax , North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 20,192
Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterH-Airstreamer View Post
These can not be removed with a picklefork nor by impact with a hammer, since the balljoint housing itself is pressed into place
I think all of us thought you were talking about removing the ball joint from the spindle, so you could remove the joint. Once you get the joint separated from the spindle, you'll need what is called a ball joint press. An impact gun to turn the threaded bolt in the press will be mighty handy, though not strictly necessary.
__________________
Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup.
Terry
overlander63 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2015, 06:06 AM   #7
Rivet Master
 
mayco's Avatar

 
1982 31' Airstream 310
champaign , Illinois
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 2,761
Ahhhhhhhhh. I watched as he did mine and I dont recall him using a press or pickle forks. I do remember a 2lb sledge being involved but my memory just sucks. He did the broken side on site and had very few tools with him. Dog gone it Peter, I stood there and watched and cant remember..sorry. If I recall Ill let you know.

Mike
__________________
mayco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2015, 06:29 AM   #8
Airstream Driver
 
PeterH-Airstreamer's Avatar

 
1997 30' Excella
1983 31' Airstream310
Austin , Texas
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,375
Images: 51
Quote:
Originally Posted by mayco View Post
Ahhhhhhhhh. I watched as he did mine and I dont recall him using a press or pickle forks. I do remember a 2lb sledge being involved but my memory just sucks. He did the broken side on site and had very few tools with him. Dog gone it Peter, I stood there and watched and cant remember..sorry. If I recall Ill let you know.

Mike
the 2lb sledge hammer way is what I am trying to avoid. He must have had some kind of a press to remove the joint, besides loosening the tapered part of the joint.
__________________
1990 29' Excella Trailer
1996 Airstream B190
1997 30' Excella Trailer
AIR #13
PeterH-Airstreamer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2015, 06:32 AM   #9
Airstream Driver
 
PeterH-Airstreamer's Avatar

 
1997 30' Excella
1983 31' Airstream310
Austin , Texas
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,375
Images: 51
Quote:
Originally Posted by overlander63 View Post
I think all of us thought you were talking about removing the ball joint from the spindle, so you could remove the joint. Once you get the joint separated from the spindle, you'll need what is called a ball joint press. An impact gun to turn the threaded bolt in the press will be mighty handy, though not strictly necessary.
Terry,
Yes, I was wondering if the press tool to install it, can also remove it with the proper attachments. Sorry for not being clear in the beginning.
Attached Images
 
__________________
1990 29' Excella Trailer
1996 Airstream B190
1997 30' Excella Trailer
AIR #13
PeterH-Airstreamer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2015, 06:34 AM   #10
Well Preserved

 
1993 21' Sovereign
Colfax , North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 20,192
Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterH-Airstreamer View Post
the 2lb sledge hammer way is what I am trying to avoid. He must have had some kind of a press to remove the joint, besides loosening the tapered part of the joint.
The press looks like a really heavy-duty C clamp. It comes with several sleeves, spacers, and adapters, so you don't destroy anything.
__________________
Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup.
Terry
overlander63 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2015, 06:42 AM   #11
Rivet Master
 
mayco's Avatar

 
1982 31' Airstream 310
champaign , Illinois
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 2,761
Thats what he used Terry.
__________________
mayco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2015, 06:44 AM   #12
Well Preserved

 
1993 21' Sovereign
Colfax , North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 20,192
Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterH-Airstreamer View Post
Terry,
Yes, I was wondering if the press tool to install it, can also remove it with the proper attachments. Sorry for not being clear in the beginning.
Yes, that can be used to remove and install ball joints.
It's also handy to replace U-joints in the driveshafts.
__________________
Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup.
Terry
overlander63 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2015, 06:57 AM   #13
Rivet Master
 
bobmiller1's Avatar

 
2005 34' Classic S/O
2006 39' Land Yacht 396 XL
north blenheim , New York
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,124
Try a Snap-On BJP1, An excellent tool, as a bonus it includes the u-joint press for the driveshaft, Regards, Bob
__________________
bobmiller1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2015, 08:08 AM   #14
Rivet Master
 
crispyboy's Avatar
 
1994 30' Excella
alexandria , Kentucky
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,656
Images: 3
I did the ball joint project on my 4wd pickup truck three weeks ago and used a kit like the one pictured above in post #9. It is a tough job. I am a mediocre shade tree mechanic.
I am not familiar with the front end components of a motor home. For my 4wd application new ball joints can be purchased with smooth sides or splined sides. The smooth sides were for typical applications where the bore that holds joint is not worn out or enlarged. The splined models were for a bore that was enlarged. I don't know if this will pertain to the motor home front end or not.
For my project I needed:
- a kit as pictured above
- penetrating fluid - soak the joints a day or so ahead of time
- torch to loosen things up - (one joint was particularly stubborn)
- 3/4 inch drive with cheater bar on the ball joint press to get the joints moving
- a few extra large washers/spacers
- place the new ball joints in a freezer for 24 hours or more before installing makes the install easier
- anti-seize lubricant for the ball joints
- block of wood and large hammer to remove the tie-rod (pickle forks can cut the rubber boots on the tie-rod end)
- assortment of open end/ box end and sockets (1/2" and 3/4" drive)
- torque wrench for ball joints and tie rod end

Take a few pics along the way - I'm curious what your getting into.
__________________

__________________
Steve, Christy, Anna and Scout (Border Collie deceased 11-30-2016)
1994 Classic 30'11" Excella - rear twin
2009 Dodge 2500, 6 Speed Auto, CTD, Quad Cab, Short Bed
Hensley with adjustable stinger
WBCCI # 3072
crispyboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
4CU 004 : FCU/NM unit joint rally Ken J WBCCI Rallies & Events 2 03-07-2009 07:29 PM
Pennwood Joint Buddy Rally August 3-5, 2007 alvinator The Rally Zone 3 08-14-2007 09:00 PM
David Crosby and Graham Nash Announce Their Candidacy for Joint Presidency Andy R Airstream "In the News" 11 08-02-2004 10:28 AM
SCCU ENCU Joint Rally white1949 WBCCI Rallies & Events 0 03-09-2004 07:14 PM
ENCU SCCU Joint Rally white1949 WBCCI Rallies & Events 0 03-09-2004 07:00 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:55 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.