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Old 12-05-2015, 09:32 PM   #29
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Nice work Peter. There is nothing like the piece of mind you get driving down the road knowing the job was done right.
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Old 12-06-2015, 07:37 PM   #30
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Left side went a lot faster than the right side. The on the job training is paying for itself already.
Just right after I took the picture of the extensions used to torque this puppy in, we busted my wrench and I had to get another 3/4 drive socket to finish the job.
Thanks to my friend Joe for giving me a helping hand and for applying his usual wit to solve the unsolvable!!
My recommendation:
Unless you have the right tools, do not attempt this job!
I was lucky that I purchased the original GM installer tool, without it we would have been sunk.
below the perfect fitting tool to make this possible
GM specialty tool #J-9519-10 with adapter J-9519-16
and a fence post
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Old 12-08-2015, 08:12 AM   #31
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Peter, got any pictures of removing the coil springs?

Great job by the way!
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Old 12-08-2015, 01:57 PM   #32
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Peter, got any pictures of removing the coil springs?

Great job by the way!
Coil springs, airbags, shocks all stay. Caliper and rotor come of.
You would have to remove the coil springs etc , if you would want to use a hydraulic press.
This method is called "on vehicle ball joint replacement"
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Old 12-08-2015, 03:44 PM   #33
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Where did you find that ball joint press. That is something I would like to have.

You don't have to remove the calipers and rotor to re&re the coil springs.
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Old 12-08-2015, 04:01 PM   #34
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Where did you find that ball joint press. That is something I would like to have.

You don't have to remove the calipers and rotor to re&re the coil springs.
John,
But you have to remove the caliper and rotors to RR the ball joints. I didn't remove the springs.
I found only 1 on ebay, from someone in Maine. I believe it has been long discontinued.
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Old 12-08-2015, 05:11 PM   #35
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Here is a very pricey (450.-) entire set
Kent Moore J 9519 E Ball Joint Service Kit Remover Installer Set Tools | eBay
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Old 12-08-2015, 09:45 PM   #36
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By request, here are the dimensions for the press-in adapter J-9519-16
2 1/2 " x 1 1/4
Without the notches in the C clamp, it would not fit.
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Old 12-09-2015, 07:22 AM   #37
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Thanks Peter!
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Well thanks to an alert forum member I'm now the proud owner of a well used J-9519-10 ball joint press tool. It's not as pretty as Peter's is but it should do the job just fine
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The adapter that came with the tool does not appear to be one that is used on a P-30 ball joint rebuild which means I'll need to fabricate whatever adapters are needed on my lathe.
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Old 12-15-2015, 07:09 PM   #39
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Well thanks to an alert forum member I'm now the proud owner of a well used J-9519-10 ball joint press tool. It's not as pretty as Peter's is but it should do the job just fine
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The adapter that came with the tool does not appear to be one that is used on a P-30 ball joint rebuild which means I'll need to fabricate whatever adapters are needed on my lathe.
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Heavy duty, isn't it. In case you haven't figured it out that adapter snaps on. Took me a while to figure that out. I thought mine was permanently attached.
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Old 12-16-2015, 07:32 AM   #40
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Peter, after reading your comment and looking at the picture you had posted previously I tried tapping the adapter off with no luck. The adapter spins on the shaft but will likely take a little bit of effort to get it off. I'll try again tonight.

Last night while relaxing in the recliner I was browsing through the 74 Light Truck service manual for my Argosy and ran across this page:
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This page caught my attention because it mentions that the J-9519-10 press tool needs to be modified for use on a P-30 chassis! That got me to thinking back when I was dismantling the 345 I noticed that the parts on the 345 seemed to be beefier than on my 345. I remember doing some comparisons and there were some definite differences between my Argosy and the 345.

It would appear the differences are enough that the J-9519-10 press would need to be modified. What I don't know is if after the modification will the press still work for the later Classic's?

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The two adapter part numbers (J-9519-7 & J-9519-9) don't match with the ones that Peter used for his ball joint removal and replace. So being bored I decided to check ebay to see if these adapters might be available. Sure enough both were listed in separate auctions and both had "Make Offer" available. I made somewhat low-ball offers and both were accepted!

In theory I now have the correct tool for removal and replacement of the lower ball joints for the early (probably all) Argosies. I won't be modifying the ball joint press until I know for sure that it won't work as is on mine. Bottom line is if I have to modify it I will but it would be nice not to have to do so.

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Poking around online I came across the service manual for 1978 model trucks and the manual doesn't show any modification to the J-9519-10 press tool but it does show the use of an additional adapter J-9519-2 (no picture shown of course) that might alleviate the need to make the modification to the tool.
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A quick spot check on RockAuto comparing ball joints from 1974, 1978 & 1984 shows the same ball joints used in all three years. I was hoping to find a difference that might explain why the J-9519-10 press would need to be modified but didn't find a smoking gun

Oh well, when the time comes I'll either modify it or not depending on circumstances.

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Old 12-16-2015, 02:48 PM   #42
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Brad, the tool itself never needs any modification, the adapters you use may, unless you have J 9519-16. This is the most important adapter that snaps on where your current adapter is. And yes it will come off, just try a little harder.
I checked and your year and my year take the same Moog number, so there can not be any difference.
Remember the removal was the easy part and i used a rental tool and 1 adapter as I described before.
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