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Old 12-05-2015, 04:21 PM   #1
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454 TBI conversion kit

I ran across this offering on ebay of a TBI conersion kit for a stock 454. I'm curious if anyone might be familar with the company or the kits they offer.

The 454 I'm putting in my Argosy is stock with the exception of the Edelbrock Performer 2 intake manifold and Comp Cams 11-203-3 rv cam. So it's obviously not quite stock

I'm going to ask them what would need to change to make it work. I hadn't realized TBI kits were this cheap.

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Definitely interesting, they have three different options for the 350 small block including a port fuel injection option.
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Old 12-05-2015, 04:44 PM   #3
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I would just get this.
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Old 12-05-2015, 04:54 PM   #4
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Why would I want a quadrajet when I already have an Edelbrock 1406? Besides I was asking about a TBI system not another carburetor.
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Definitely interesting, they have three different options for the 350 small block including a port fuel injection option.
The price is definitely reasonable. If your 350 is stock it might be something to consider.

For importing your Argosy to the UK does it have to be stock?
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Good question Brad, and from what I can tell there is no definite answer.

What I do know is I will have to match the spec relating to the chassis number/VIN, so I can't change the configuration or engine size.

The DVLA (Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency) will decide the 'class'. Bella actually sits between 2 classes;

Class IV — Cars, including 3-wheeled vehicles more than 450 kg unladen weight, taxis, minibuses and ambulances up to 12 passenger seats, Goods Vehicles not exceeding 3,000 kg Design Gross Weight (DGW), motor caravans and Dual Purpose Vehicles.

Class V — Private passenger vehicles, ambulances, motor caravans and dual purpose vehicles with 13 or more passenger seats

By weight she should be Class IV, but I have to wait and see. Before they issue a V5C certificate (a registration document similar to a title) they will want to carry out an IVA (Individual Vehicle Approval) test, which for a vehicle older than 1991 should not include emissions compliance.

If I was trying to register a vehicle newer than 1991 with a 350 small block it simply would not get through without fuel injection, so I can old see having fuel injection as being a positive.
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If you want to go TBI don't waste money on an aftermarket wiring kit. The word is that they are great but you will end up cutting and modifying it anyway. The original OEM harness is great quality and cheap/free.
I will post some links with good info later today.
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Sorry... Didn't click on the link...
Looks a nice kit, but its a lot of money for what it is.
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Martin, do you have any guaranteed way of finding out what you can and can't do prior to loading it on a ship?

I would hope so!
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Sorry... Didn't click on the link...
Looks a nice kit, but its a lot of money for what it is.
Can you show me a kit or combination of parts that is cheaper and doesn't require any effort on my part except for installation?

One of the reasons I've always discounted the idea of going to TBI is the cost. Seems like all of the other conversion kits out there were a lot more expensive and need configuring to match your vehicle. I don't have the time or energy to try and piece things together to make a kit for my particular engine configuration.

This one on ebay appears to be a bolt on kit. I did get a response back from the seller and he said it would match up well with my current engine mods.

Theres somrthing to be said for simplicity
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I have some suggestions coming Brad...

In the meanwhile, here is a link to the UK type approval book...
https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...iva-scheme.pdf
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Here's one that I have had bookmarked for awhile:

http://www.affordable-fuel-injection...mplete-system/
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Here's one that I have had bookmarked for awhile:

CHEVROLET Complete TBI System | Affordable Fuel Injection
Steve, thanks for the link. Seems to be in the same price category and similar kit components.

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I have some suggestions coming Brad...

In the meanwhile, here is a link to the UK type approval book...
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That's the kinda reading I do when I'm having a hard time falling asleep
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