1992 Land Yacht TAG brake overhaul (lots of pics)

[Keyair]

Originally Posted by 92landyacht

Thanks for the heads up. I just ordered a set as a backup. Already have new Thermo-Quiet pads on but I paid more for the pads alone then that deal. They only have 15 of the TQM25047 left. At that price I should have ordered two sets!

Pleased to have spotted them!
Just cannot loose at that price!
I assume you agree that they look like the right items?

[92landyacht]

They should be correct. The fronts and rears are the same so that matches as well. I checked the same part numbers on O'reilly Auto Parts web site, they match and are selling for $70.99 each. I'll let you all know when they arrive. Rockauto said they shipped today.

[92landyacht]

Here's what arrived today:






Part number should fit P30 front and rear discs from 1979 to 1999. Boxes were a little banged up, but everything inside was intact including all new mounting hardware. $39.57 delivered to the door for both. I may pick up a second set so I'll have all new calipers all the way around. Keyair and Rockauto.com ROCKS!!!

[Keyair]

LOL!
That is awesome!
Gotta LOVE RockAuto and the fast shipping!
Gotta LOVE the Remanufactured in the USA note!
Hopefully I can find a job soon and get mine before they are all gone!

[LimeyRich]

I was apparently too subtle in my earlier post.
What size are the 345 tag axle parts, which ones do I order? Anyone know the part #s?
I cannot pull a wheel and drum from the tag axle right now, due to the ongoing transmission replacement. I know the tag axle brakes are wasted, and I would really like to order the parts now. So that,as soon as the transmission is finally in, I can replace the tag axle brakes.
Thanks.
All the best. Cheers! Rich.

[Inland RV Center, In]

Originally Posted by LimeyRich

I was apparently too subtle in my earlier post.
What size are the 345 tag axle parts, which ones do I order? Anyone know the part #s?
I cannot pull a wheel and drum from the tag axle right now, due to the ongoing transmission replacement. I know the tag axle brakes are wasted, and I would really like to order the parts now. So that,as soon as the transmission is finally in, I can replace the tag axle brakes.
Thanks.
All the best. Cheers! Rich.

The brakes are 12 inch electric brakes.

You can update by installing "self adjusting" electric brakes.

They adjust everytime, if needed, when the coach backs up.

They cost a little more, but well worth it.

You will also need grease seals for the drums.

Use the double lipped seals that also have a spring in them, which maximizes their performance.

Andy

[bkahler]

Originally Posted by Keyair

FYI peeps...
I was looking at parts at RockAuto.
If I have the correct part numbers..

Wagner, Front and rear remanufactured calipers for 1979/99 P30 Chassis, with rear disc brakes.
Complete with hardware and semi-metalic pads on closeout...
$14.14 each....
Part numbers are TQM25046 for left side front and rear and TQM25047 for right side front and rear...

Just ordered four for the 310 and I have confirmation that they shipped. Heck of a price and nice to have sitting on the shelf.

Thanks!

Brad

[92landyacht]

Originally Posted by LimeyRich

I was apparently too subtle in my earlier post.

Originally Posted by LimeyRich

What size are the 345 tag axle parts, which ones do I order? Anyone know the part #s?
I cannot pull a wheel and drum from the tag axle right now, due to the ongoing transmission replacement. I know the tag axle brakes are wasted, and I would really like to order the parts now. So that,as soon as the transmission is finally in, I can replace the tag axle brakes .
Thanks.
All the best. Cheers! Rich.

The part numbers are visible in the pictures I posted and there’s a link to the site I purchased them from in a later post. The ones I purchased are the self adjusting type.

The right side is: Dexters K23-465-00
The left side is: Dexter K23-464-00

They’re 12” x 2” drums.

Hope that helps.

[LimeyRich]

Thanks a million guys! The new self adjusting assemblies are on their way, ta da.
Thanks again, 92 landyacht, and Andy.
All the best. Cheers! Rich

[wvabeer]

Dam I wish i had read this first

[92landyacht]

bump

[wxbuoy]

Thanks for the bump! Subscribed so I will always have it!!

[tevake]

Yes thanks mucho!
At least two of us here are right now preparing to go thru our tag axel brakes to get them back into operational condition.
So these d
Well detailed tutorials are very helpfull !

Cheers Richard

[92landyacht]

Looks like my next tutorial will be "How to replace rear disc brakes on a P30 chassis". I just picked up a fantastic deal on new rear discs, loaded rebuilt calipers with Wagner Thermal Quiet pads from RockAuto.com. Total came in just under $100 for the set. Figured it was a good time to replace the entire rear brake assembly. Still need to pick up some new rear seals but those are pretty common and cheap locally. TAGs were done in this tutorial and I did fronts this summer. Stay tuned...

[PaulnGina]

Originally Posted by lonestranger

Thanks for the excellent writeup on this vital subject! However, one important comment I might make as a retired paramedic - consider using something like "brake kleen" or similar solvent to clean the bearings etc, rather than gasoline - you don't want to know what happens if you get a spark of anykind while doing the job, as I do!! Just some advice from one that has seen the result. Again thanks for the excellent article, but don't want to lose one of our "airstreamers" (or airstream for that matter!)

If any of our other non-motorhome members review this thread, this is an awesomely-documented process that is identical to what I did on my 34' 6-wheeled Avion. I'm assuming it'll be very similar for the AS travel trailers. Part numbers for the brake assemblies will be different, of course.

I used diesel fuel to clean my bearings. I agree 100% about the hazards of using gasoline.

Edit: to add a link for Southwest Wheel's site where I got my parts. Another good source.

http://www.southwestwheel.com/store/...ssemblies.aspx

[92landyacht]

I agree with the non use of gas to clean the bearings. Didn't have anything around that could have done the job so I used what I had on hand.

The rear TAG axle in my motorhome is in fact the same as used on other Airstream's. This includes motorhomes and trailers alike, so many of the components and assemblies will be the same between the two.

[PaulnGina]

Originally Posted by 92landyacht

I agree with the non use of gas to clean the bearings. Didn't have anything around that could have done the job so I used what I had on hand.

The rear TAG axle in my motorhome is in fact the same as used on other Airstream's. This includes motorhomes and trailers alike, so many of the components and assemblies will be the same between the two.

I hope you didn't think I was criticizing your use of gasoline. I've done the same thing many, many times. Really didn't think much about it because I was always outside, away from any ignition source. Hadn't really considered the spark possibility. Once I bought my diesel pick-up, I had a jug of fuel on hand to use. The first time I needed to clean something, I remember thinking about the diesel's lower volitility. Glad it all worked out!

Anyway, great how-to documentation!

[Kota]

Originally Posted by PaulnGina

I hope you didn't think I was criticizing your use of gasoline. I've done the same thing many, many times. Really didn't think much about it because I was always outside, away from any ignition source. Hadn't really considered the spark possibility. Once I bought my diesel pick-up, I had a jug of fuel on hand to use. The first time I needed to clean something, I remember thinking about the diesel's lower volitility. Glad it all worked out!

Anyway, great how-to documentation!

We have plenty opportunity to get crosswise with gas and sparks like filling your tank, can, or lawnmower. Used with care I think the risk of a woof isn't as great as lighting your hair on fire with the kitchen stove or gas grill. Then there's the health and environmental arguments. But the most important reason for not cleaning bearings with motor fuels is that they contain additives that coat the surface and prevent grease from sticking in place and allow it to slinging away. I use a volatile solvent like acetone or alcohol as a final rinse. Probably as dangerous as removing nail polish or that hair spray we use in potato cannons.

[92landyacht]

Bump just in case someone is looking for this.

[Keyair]

92Landyaght... your pics are gone from post #1...?