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Old 11-06-2012, 04:53 AM   #15
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LimeyRich, go to the website 92landyacht got his parts from. If those folks don't have it, it's not available! Seems they've got pretty much anything any of us want.
My tag axle brakes were give a thorough rebuild 2 years ago, guess I'm ok. Believe a set of replacements will be purchased and set aside for later though.
Thanks for a great write-up 92landyacht!
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:52 AM   #16
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Does anyone know if these are the same parts that a 345 would use?
Thanks. Rich.
Airstream tag axle electric brakes, are the same exact brakes that are used on the trailers.

They can be updated however, by installing "self adjusting" electric brakes.

They cost a couple of bucks more, but are well worth it.

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Old 11-06-2012, 07:49 AM   #17
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Yep, I used the self adjusting ones and am very happy with them so far. Now if I can only get the main brakes to be as responsive.... I guess I'm expecting more grab with less peddle pressure from them.

Can anyone else chime in on what I should be expecting from my "power" brakes?

I can feel the TAG brakes kick in since I have the brake controller set to high inital brake but the main brakes just seem to need a lot of peddle pressure to bring the rig to a hault. I've got new pads and hoses all around and good power steering as well.
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Old 11-06-2012, 08:39 AM   #18
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Heavy pedal pressure for 92 Landyacht

OK a few things to mull over, and double check.
A noticeable change from before the brake work?
are you disks glazed?
Is that "Firm" pedal pressure?
Did you flush out all the old fluid?
Have you bled the entire system repeatedly?
Did you remember to lightly grease the caliper slides with ultra high temp silicone grease?
Is your booster, or your master cylinder leaky? Especially between the two units. Are they perhaps "tired" inside, i.e. fluid leakage around worn internal parts.
There are not many things that can be wrong, but it is a big complicated system and they can be hard to track down for us amateurs.
I myself have never been highly impressed with the braking on our Airstreams. I always feel that in a real panic stop my 345 will take about 80 feet too many of the available road.
Anyway, hope you figure it out.
All the best. Cheers! Rich.
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Old 11-06-2012, 09:29 AM   #19
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FYI peeps...
I was looking at parts at RockAuto.
If I have the correct part numbers..

Wagner, Front and rear remanufactured calipers for 1979/99 P30 Chassis, with rear disc brakes.
Complete with hardware and semi-metalic pads on closeout...
$14.14 each....
Part numbers are TQM25046 for left side front and rear and TQM25047 for right side front and rear...
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Thanks for the heads up. I just ordered a set as a backup. Already have new Thermo-Quiet pads on but I paid more for the pads alone then that deal. They only have 15 of the TQM25047 left. At that price I should have ordered two sets!
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Thanks for the heads up. I just ordered a set as a backup. Already have new Thermo-Quiet pads on but I paid more for the pads alone then that deal. They only have 15 of the TQM25047 left. At that price I should have ordered two sets!
Pleased to have spotted them!
Just cannot loose at that price!
I assume you agree that they look like the right items?
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:13 AM   #22
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They should be correct. The fronts and rears are the same so that matches as well. I checked the same part numbers on O'reilly Auto Parts web site, they match and are selling for $70.99 each. I'll let you all know when they arrive. Rockauto said they shipped today.
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Old 11-08-2012, 05:25 PM   #23
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Here's what arrived today:






Part number should fit P30 front and rear discs from 1979 to 1999. Boxes were a little banged up, but everything inside was intact including all new mounting hardware. $39.57 delivered to the door for both. I may pick up a second set so I'll have all new calipers all the way around. Keyair and Rockauto.com ROCKS!!!
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LOL!
That is awesome!
Gotta LOVE RockAuto and the fast shipping!
Gotta LOVE the Remanufactured in the USA note!
Hopefully I can find a job soon and get mine before they are all gone!
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Question Tag axle brakes, which ones

I was apparently too subtle in my earlier post.
What size are the 345 tag axle parts, which ones do I order? Anyone know the part #s?
I cannot pull a wheel and drum from the tag axle right now, due to the ongoing transmission replacement. I know the tag axle brakes are wasted, and I would really like to order the parts now. So that,as soon as the transmission is finally in, I can replace the tag axle brakes.
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I was apparently too subtle in my earlier post.
What size are the 345 tag axle parts, which ones do I order? Anyone know the part #s?
I cannot pull a wheel and drum from the tag axle right now, due to the ongoing transmission replacement. I know the tag axle brakes are wasted, and I would really like to order the parts now. So that,as soon as the transmission is finally in, I can replace the tag axle brakes.
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All the best. Cheers! Rich.
The brakes are 12 inch electric brakes.

You can update by installing "self adjusting" electric brakes.

They adjust everytime, if needed, when the coach backs up.

They cost a little more, but well worth it.

You will also need grease seals for the drums.

Use the double lipped seals that also have a spring in them, which maximizes their performance.

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FYI peeps...
I was looking at parts at RockAuto.
If I have the correct part numbers..

Wagner, Front and rear remanufactured calipers for 1979/99 P30 Chassis, with rear disc brakes.
Complete with hardware and semi-metalic pads on closeout...
$14.14 each....
Part numbers are TQM25046 for left side front and rear and TQM25047 for right side front and rear...
Just ordered four for the 310 and I have confirmation that they shipped. Heck of a price and nice to have sitting on the shelf.

Thanks!

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What size are the 345 tag axle parts, which ones do I order? Anyone know the part #s?
I cannot pull a wheel and drum from the tag axle right now, due to the ongoing transmission replacement. I know the tag axle brakes are wasted, and I would really like to order the parts now. So that,as soon as the transmission is finally in, I can replace the tag axle brakes .
Thanks.
All the best. Cheers! Rich.
The part numbers are visible in the pictures I posted and there’s a link to the site I purchased them from in a later post. The ones I purchased are the self adjusting type.

The right side is: Dexters K23-465-00
The left side is: Dexter K23-464-00

They’re 12” x 2” drums.

Hope that helps.
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