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Old 11-18-2015, 11:49 AM   #29
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At those prices, I'm not interested in beta testing new technology for an RV manufacturer.
There is very little "new" technology that you would be beta-testing, as long as you stay away from the Roadtrek E-Trek.

Quality control is an issue with just about any B-van, which is assembled like a ship in a bottle inside the original van body. There's not a lot of room for people to work inside during assembly, and having to stop work at every step of the process for an inspector to come along and check every little thing would slow production to a fraction of what it isó and coincidentally jack up the price even higher due to the extra man-hours needed to perform that level of inspection.

It's really sounding like you really would be better served to buy a small C-van built on a Sprinter cab chassis. In the case of a C-van, the entire living area is built on an assembly line, then lifted into place on the chassis as a completed unit. Assembly is easier to inspect, and easier to automate. Quality is more consistent, though there is less hand-craftsmanship involved. Plus you'll get more living space for your bucks. For example, the Winnebago View 24M.
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Thanks for your input. I'm concerned less with whether I would enjoy the RV experience than I am with the reliability of these RVs. Granted that I'm still working through the issue of propane safety and I appreciate your comments on that subject; If you own or have had experience with either the Roadtrek with Etrek option, the Etrek or the Airstream Interstate, please share with me any reliability issues you've had on major systems. Much appreciated.
I certainly have a new-found appreciation for your concern with propane safety. I discovered our tank to be leaking propane a few days ago and I commenced this thread regarding it.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f240...es-143802.html
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Old 11-18-2015, 06:20 PM   #32
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Thanks for your input..... .....If you own or have had experience with either the Roadtrek with Etrek option, the Etrek or the Airstream Interstate, please share with me any reliability issues you've had on major systems. Much appreciated.

The only problem I had with my Interstate after initial delivery was a loose connection on the Battery Isolator. It caused some weird intermittent electrical problems. I ended up fixing it myself after talking to the electrician at the dealer were I bought it. They are over three hours away.

After a season of use I had to take it back to the dealer for a recall on the propane regulator. Before I had the recall fix I noticed the macerator pump was broken from the mounting on one side. Dealer replaced the macerator pump on warranty when I was in for the recall.

I'm big on DIY maintenance and upgrades. I have made many changes to my Interstate to the point where it is now more a custom unit. I like propane for heat and cooking, especially with the portable gas grill I carry for cooking outside. But I share InterBlog's concerns for the systems as they age. Any RV is more like owning a large power boat. It will require maintenance even if not used.

In my opinion the best quality and most reliable B-van RV is built by Advanced RV (ARV) in Ohio. I was planning to buy one in 2012 but their operation was not yet ready so I bought the Interstate so I could start traveling. I have seen their current operation during their annual open house last spring. ARV stands behind their product and will back fit improvements they make at no cost. Their vans are a more expensive than a Roadtrek E-Trek and Airstream Interstates. Their vans are totally electric with no propane. They have a diesel powered heating system and use the Sprinter engine with extra alternator for battery charging if needed. Large solar and big lithium batteries are in their base design. Only down side is you will have to wait nearly a year to get one built for you if you want one. They do everything custom to their customer's requirements.


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Old 11-19-2015, 08:35 AM   #33
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Thanks for your input. I'm concerned less with whether I would enjoy the RV experience than I am with the reliability of these RVs.
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Reliability (or the lack thereof) is an acute problem and therefore those squeaky wheel issues tend to get the grease and get widely talked about.

However my best guess at present is that the REAL elephant in the Interstate's room will actually prove to be a chronic problem rather than acute - that being corrosion.

It's not clear how widespread it is at this point, but my suspicions are continuing to grow. We know we have an issue with our 2007 Interstate, and it doesn't stop with the LP tank. I suspect that much the same material grades are still being used in the newer Interstates that are coming off the production line today. Look at the recent Winterizing thread and at the photos that the one very helpful Forum poster provided - his all-thread (the hardware that hangs his tank from the chassis) is already bright orange, and his six-figure Interstate is only two years old!! In the photo, I believe I also may see incipient rust on his metal tank brackets.

Of course, none of that rust appears to be serious at this point - but again, the vehicle is just two years old - what is it going to look like in another few short years if it looks like that already?? My guess is that it's going to need intervention at a relatively young point in its life, and that intervention is either going to be time-consuming, or expensive, or both.

Such was the case when my husband and I had to replace our gray water system plumbing last year. The hardware was an absolute mess of corrosion. We rehabbed what we could, and replaced what could not be salvaged due to the extensiveness of the rust.

I'll have more to say about that issue later, but for the purposes of your (the OP's) original question, this is another factor to potentially consider as you weigh your choices.
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