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Old 07-23-2004, 12:29 PM   #29
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chasis is everything under the camper body, frame engine, suspension, axles tires, etc.

change your local region if it's a people issue, my first association did not even bother to give us name tags....... other regions tried to recruit us.... go figure, I'm switching to western NC unit, my mother is the president this year, pop was past president...............do most club related camping with them anyway.
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Old 07-23-2004, 04:47 PM   #30
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not a people issue...the people were wonderful in our unit....it is more the cost. an average rally with a per child charge times 8 kids was way out of line. rallies for 10 people are just too expensive. a rally right here in my state to holland was going to be a couple thousand for a week i think it was... i contacted the nice people in charge of the rally and they were sorry, but they just could not do it for less... state rally this year..even though right here in michigan, just a couple hours from me, no way, because they charged 50.00 to 60.00 per child, 8 children, the baby would have been free this year, plus 2 adults in trailer for the 210.00. i went to vermont last year, and everyone was wonderful, but i just don't have that much dough to drop on a parking spot.there is some good activities i know, but it is still just too much. i know ours is a unique situation so i don't expect special treatment. it still is upsetting though. i really enjoyed the people and my red numbers.lol. i have called the home office about it, but no one really was that concerned, just polite and oh well. i guess there are not enough big families to really court them to join the wbcci for them to be concerned about it. i understand, but it still is really, really frustrating. i keep reading in the blue beret how they want younger families, but i did not see anything happen except talking about it.in reading this over, i guess i am more upset about it than i realized.i did get involved with my local unit to serve as an officer and those were more affordable, my unit went out of their way to be friendly and helpful. there is a rally in september somewhere in amish ohio or something that was not per child cost...i would like to try that one this year if i am able to get another airstream....sorry, i know my tone is very aggravated. it is just i can't justify paying a yearly fee to have 8344 in red numbers on my airstream. my suggestions would be that they do some sort of family rate rather than per kid, and give you a choice to opt out of the activities that you would not go to anyway to help the cost, and offer more rallies that are family friendly at a reasonable cost. i agree with the gentleman writing in the blue beret, they have to remember some of us are still working for a living but trying to be involved too.

sorry if i vented....maybe it will do some good in the future for somebody else if they make it better for families....i really would like to stay in it, and i would definetely stay with my same unit...that group of people was the best
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Old 07-23-2004, 04:58 PM   #31
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i know i sound like a big whiney, sorry....
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Old 07-23-2004, 08:50 PM   #32
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Froggies,

I think they heard you as well as some others, at least on the International level. The rally fee for Springfield is 210.00 for 2 in a trailer, For the kids you pay for the first two @ 60 dollars and the rest are FREE.

I understand your frustration regarding issues like this. Unfortunately the only way to make change happen today is to keep making the appropriate leaders aware of the issue s that it gets addressed. I think that many of the regional rallies are starting to do a prorate for the attendees that do not come for the whole rally as well.

Attached is a copy of the early registration form for Springfield.
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Old 07-23-2004, 09:15 PM   #33
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brett, thanks so much...i will check it out and compare my schedule....

i can't say enough good things about all the wonderful, kind wbcci members we have met. i guess that is why not being able to afford to go hurts so much...
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Old 07-23-2004, 09:22 PM   #34
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okay, i just checked out the international form and i want to give the wbcci a giant round of applause from 20 hands around here....that is wonderful, impressive, and i guess i will renew my membership now as they are obviously making an effort and i so appreciate it. i wish i could make exclaimation points but still no caps,etc. on computer...but everyone here will be clapping when i tell them...thanks for telling me, i was having a rather bad day until this ray of sunshine....
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look at it this way, carrie .... you not only have enough people in your family to field both sides on a diamond, you might singlehandedly have enough bodies to influence the entire future of the WBCCI!
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Old 07-23-2004, 09:52 PM   #36
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when people i don't know stop me and start yelling why do you have so many kids, i just say who is going to pay your social security and they quiet right down...

i just keep wondering if big families will influence airstream to make coaches that sleep 10, many sob companies already do, so there must be a market...problem would be trying to afford to pay for a new one like that..

still looking for my motorhome....since the original topic was value of classic moho....
what about one that had some sort of engine fire...that necessitated a new engine...and some interior damage to the dash, ac lines, and hydrolic lines...and was from the 80's era....however, had excellent exterior, i think a new/or rebuilt generator...needed some tlc in interior...
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Having been looking at Motorhomes (just looking and admiring), I'd have to say that to most of us, it's not **really** the money why we get into these things. It's owning one and how it feeds the soul just to look at it and know, yup, that puppy is ours. They are the coolest coaches (both Airstream and Argosy motorhomes) on the planet. Sure there are fancy ones out there, but at a mongo price. There are cheapo SOBs to be had to with less than 1/8 the personality of a dog house.

In the end, the person the buys based on an investment, will most likely be disappointed. Few vehicles appreciate in value. I always got a kick out of the local Airstream peddler that kept saying, buying an Airstream is an investment. I don't agree as it will loose value. Sure will last a long time and resale will be better, but we pay a premium for these things be it if we buy new, or we buy used and spend the $$ getting it up to the standard I see floating around the forums.

One last note, is that if Airstream ever builds the Classic motorhomes again, I will bet that they will be 6 figures or darn close.

Makes that 78 chassis with all the thousands of $$ in upgrades that much more attractive.

Anyway..that's just my .02
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not a people issue...the people were wonderful in our unit....it is more the cost.

Me too with just 3 kids. It was ok when I was working as an engineer. We could swing the high cost of 5 attending a ralley. Just did not go to many. Now, I'm going to medical school (RN). There's no way we can go to more than one ralley in a year.

I know at this years international in Michigan, a topic of discussion was how to attract families? One answer was to plan shorter events. That's good. Other answers only added to the cost of attending. Not good. Bad.

If families are to participate (that do not desire to spend lot$$ of cash) it needs to be simple and cheap. This family chose to camp with a USED CHEAP RV to avoid the expense of hotels and trips to expensive places.
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