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Old 07-08-2015, 01:01 PM   #15
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SteveH. We made the mistake of selling a perfectly great 30' AS and F250 Diesel and buying a brand new 38' Newmar Motorhome. I say mistake as I am a driver, love to drive and have driven almost every vehicle you can imagine over the years. I have a CDL as does my wife, who drove a school bus for 25 years. The motorhome itself was great, it was a Ford V10, incredible engine, but not enough for a 22,000 # MoHo which towed a Jeep Wrangler.

Anyway, we always dreamed of a MoHo, so worked a deal on the MoHo by trading both the F250 and AS. Deal was so good dealer could not sell the truck for what he had in it so they kept it. We test drove the MoHo, without towing. Drove ok, not great but we decided to accept the short comings and move forward on our dream and dream retirement trip out west - 7,500 miles in 7 weeks.

The Gasser was under powered as noted and brakes are not sufficient at all. Handling is awful, recall I've driven everything and my wife a school bus. This top of the line MoHo drove significantly worse than a school bus. Wind had it all over the road, literally could not keep it in my lane of choice. Out of curiosity I talked to every MoHo owner I could in the first four campgrounds we stayed in. To a person the diesel owners said "oh we had a gas for six months" Or we tried a gas for a couple of years an switched to diesel and they still don't like the way they handle. Unless you move into the Million $ plus range, they seemed to be ok with everything.

By the end of the forth week I had the MoHo selling dealer agreeing to take the MoHo back in on trade, buying an AS we were going to order from the local AS dealer and we worked our deal with both dealers, but the selling dealer was the MoHo dealer on our new AS. We ordered a new truck from our Ford dealer and when we got home in mid October everything was in place and we waited for the AS to be made. We picked up our new Ford 350 in November and the AS in December. The trip out to the MoHo dealer in the MoHo confirmed how much I did not like driving the thing, the trip back home in the F350 and AS confirmed how much we both enjoyed towing the AS.

I've relayed this story to a lot of friends all considering a gas MoHo or entry level Diesel, not up over $250,000 and each one has either purchased an AS or a 5th wheel. Setting up the MoHo in campgrounds is easy and great, staying in it was terrific, two slides - bath and a half etc. But could not overcome the poor handling and driving is a big part of our adventures out.

If you go MoHo, go big and go heavy or in my opinion don't go. The entry level diesels today are not what they were in the late 90's or early 2000's. They are lighter, underpowered due to emissions etc. Many mfgs have had to go to tag axles just to be able to carry the added weight of the new emissions garbage.
I do agree with LucasS if you simply travel to a destination and stay put, I would still go MoHo, but they way we travel it just did not work.

So there you have our story, Best of luck

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Old 07-08-2015, 01:04 PM   #16
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Due to my husband having Macular Degeneration we have a beautiful Holiday Rambler 38' Imperial motor home that we will be selling. It is beautiful inside and out. Was their show coach for 2001. In perfect condition and has not been out of its home in 7 years. 35,000 miles on a Cummins engine with a great transmission, a 7000 generator that operates 2 A/C units. Since we have bought an Airstream trailer that I can pull we will be putting the motor home up for sale if you are interested I will watch this string and give you info.
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Old 07-08-2015, 01:34 PM   #17
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Lastly, are you SURE an FJ cruiser can't be towed 4 down? I know I've seen one as a toad before but it was probably a manual tranny. Even if yours is an automatic as long as you can put your transfer case in neutral you can tow it 4 down (assuming it's 4 wheel drive..if it's all wheel drive you'll need a flat bed or a new car)
Thanks for all your thoughts.

I have done lots of checking on towing the FJ and the only way it could be done is with a drive shaft disconnect system (it's 2WD Auto), and then they don't recommend any towing or off roading with the disconnect system. In all my searching on the subject, I found NO Toyota vehicles that could be towed 4 down, not even the 4WD manual transmission versions.
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Old 07-08-2015, 06:14 PM   #18
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If I do decide to buy a motorhome, yes I will have to sell the trailer, and I will advertise it here first. I have several people that say they are interested, but you know how that goes. Also have a friend that is just in a tizzy to buy my truck.

Anyway, if the decision is made to go that direction, it will not be before the middle of September because of "other commitments".

Of course there would be a contingency-
I would have to sell my trailer to buy your trailer.
I would also have to buy your truck, too. I think the 34' with a slide is more weight and tongue weight than a half ton would be comfortable with.
I was going to buy s 1988 Excella 34' and pull it with my Tundra, but it weighed less and had less tongue weight than your "wide body" with a slide.


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Old 07-08-2015, 06:29 PM   #19
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The Airstream motorhomes must be hard to back up. I have a CA friend that runs over stuff when he backs up.
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Old 07-08-2015, 07:02 PM   #20
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No more difficult to back than any other 36' long vehicle-


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Old 07-08-2015, 07:49 PM   #21
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Interesting comments on handling as I've had the opposite experience. The 360 seems to handle quite well. I've never been blown or sucked out of my lane. I've followed big box MoHoes that were definitely fighting worst than I was. We do a lot of driving in CO WY NE N&SD where the wind blows. And never the right direction.

Gusty X-winds will definitely tire you out faster than a nice tailwind but I've fought winds towing a trailer too!
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I am not here to try to convince tailers owners that they are wrong? But, I would never have a trailer, after what I have seen on the road, over the years

As detailed above, each person will have their own requirements, whether it be slides, etc. but if you are going to travel, a quality Class A, DP, on a HD Chassis, is the only way to go.

The biggest thing to look for is carrying capacity. If the unit is going to be overloaded before you leave home, then that is not the one you want.

2000# carrying capacity is not much. Airstream did something good when they built the CLIPPER, that has almost 6000# CC. We run close to that when we leave home with full fuel and water for at least 3 days living comfortably on the road.

Between the west coast and NY State, we generally only made one service stop for sani and water in 7 days.

As mentioned, any Airstream Class A, will now be at least 10 years old.

Take your time and do your research.

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Old 07-08-2015, 10:33 PM   #23
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I have no desire to own a class A, but if I did, I'd go for a late 80's Newell. No slides, but it just looks right, y'know? This '89 was for sale for $60K.

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That is a nice unit. Has the mid mount door also. Hard to find good units before they started adding all the bling?


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Old 07-09-2015, 06:39 PM   #25
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OK, since we're talkin' Class A, let's talk about some *real* class:

1955 Flxible



And with its car trailer

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Is that a FlXible? Looks like a GM PD 4109 or something.
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This is a GM PD 4109 or some number.


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Yep, it's a Flxible "VistaLiner" from '55. The ones with the wonderful rounded tail, like the one you posted, were about 1948-52.
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Both buses I actually saw in campgrounds.
I've always had a thing for the Bluebird Wanderlodge and the Foretravel Unihome, too.
If I ever get a Class A outside the realm of Airstream it will most likely be a Tiffin Allegro Bus. They hold up pretty well, the factory is close, and the company owner is a Christian.


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