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Old 12-26-2015, 06:01 PM   #15
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If the appliance had been off, what would have happened?
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Old 12-26-2015, 09:44 PM   #16
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Frank, I thought you learned that you can't be right on here
The thing I have not learned is to just not post. I have refrained for months, first time back I am squared away by the same guy who did it before. I think I will go back to minding my own business. Life is a lot easier that way.
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Old 12-26-2015, 10:02 PM   #17
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Frank,

I know you have a very high IQ, but that means nothing here!

Time to move along,

Oh, Merry Christmas!

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Old 12-26-2015, 10:48 PM   #18
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The thing I have not learned is to just not post. I have refrained for months, first time back I am squared away by the same guy who did it before. I think I will go back to minding my own business. Life is a lot easier that way.
Don't know the history here but I appreciated what you wrote, Frank. Thanks for posting.
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Old 12-27-2015, 05:40 AM   #19
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The thing I have not learned is to just not post. I have refrained for months, first time back I am squared away by the same guy who did it before. I think I will go back to minding my own business. Life is a lot easier that way.
Don't let the few juveniles on here turn you away. I enjoy your posts. Personal attacks aren't allowed..
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Old 12-27-2015, 07:20 AM   #20
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I sometimes wonder how people manage to get through life given their obsession with being 100% risk free. Personally, worrying about your fridge running while towing is up there with "you're going to kill yourself and everyone around you if you ... don't use a Hensley/drive faster than 55 MPH/unplug the shore power without turning the breakers off/etc."

Driving is inherently dangerous - driving towing a 8000 lb trailer is somewhat more so. If you can't accept the risk versus reward balance, then don't do it. I sometimes wonder if these same individuals wear a helmet in the shower, use a seatbelt on the toilet, don't use cell phones and drive everywhere in an armored SUV with run-flat tires.

I happen to agree 100% with Frank on this - absolutely no evidence for the assertion that your fridge will light off gasoline vapors in anything resembling normal refueling practice (i.e. not spraying fuel all over the vehicle).
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Old 12-27-2015, 09:10 AM   #21
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Years ago I learned to not engage here. It usually just leads to removed posts and people disliking each other. I do not really care for that.
I have run up against a few folks here. I never wanted it to happen. I forget how much knowledge can be gained by posting 3.57 a day for 6 months straight. Generally, on the ground, first hand experience is trumped by posting regularly.

This 'blowing ones self up because you left an appliance on' has become rather an obsession now. I have currently gone 68 Google pages deep in this quest. I just cannot let it go.

I did indeed see the article of 5 years ago when I searched. I did not feel it pertained to a discussion about travel trailers since it was a van. I also could not include it since the driver shot gas into the appliance directly. Personally, if my gas fill and my water heater were on a van I would NEVER think to fill up while it is running. The real tell however was the very last paragraph;
Houma Fire Inspector Mike Millet said he was able to recreate how Binder explained the gas spill, and said it was possible. But Millet noted that’s a first for the department and he’s unsure if that’s how the fire started.
So, my search(quest);
I did find a bunch of Motorhome and travel trailers fires. I hope this NEVER happens to anyone reading this. Just like in the world of boats, 95% of the time, the fire was electrical by cause. The remaining fires occurred with filling up onboard propane tanks. Mostly when overfilled the excess propane, hovering inches off the ground, is ignited. There were some "unexplained" however none I found were at the gas pump.
I endeavor to continue searching till I find one or I reach the 100th page that Google presents me.
Would honestly like to be proven wrong about all this.

To just restate from my first post;
I do not encourage you to break the rules.
I do not encourage you to do ANYTHING you are not comfortable with.
I do not turn off my refer when I tow.
Don't use me as an example.

And on a final note, YES, that van would NEVER have caught fire had the appliance been 'off'
it probably would not have occurred had the driver remembered to pack his common sense before he left for the trip.
Perhaps the fire was less accidental than it first appears, the fire inspector thoughts so.
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I wonder why there is a need to drive with the fridge on in the first place. I've towed through 95+ degree temps for 350-400 mile days with the fridge OFF and when I arrive at my destination the contents are still cold. Frozen foods are still frozen.

Under more normal temps and distances I can't see there being an issue.
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Ok guys I found it! This is what NOT to do. You have to watch the entire clip.

http://youtu.be/_SSbFjK_gnY
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Funny.

And relevant .


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I have run up against a few folks here. I never wanted it to happen. I forget how much knowledge can be gained by posting 3.57 a day for 6 months straight. Generally, on the ground, first hand experience is trumped by posting regularly.
Frank, you're looking at the wrong statistic. Look at the Friends Count.
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Actually, I think you are more likely to start a fire with your cell phone at the pumps then your fridge. I always run my fridge. Sometimes turn it off, sometimes not, depending on circumstances.
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I leave fridge on only when traveling. My gas fill up is on opposite side of propane appliances. I'm more concerned about the 60# of propane + car gas going 55 mph on a highway.
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Old 12-27-2015, 04:42 PM   #28
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[QUOTE=Frank's Trailer Works;1727717]I am not telling anyone to break the rules...
However...
I challenge anyone to find a report of a trailer blowing up because the fridge was on, at the gas station. Out of boredom I tried. I went 30 pages deep into Google trying. Not one case of a trailer blowing up due to the fridge being on at a gas station. I did find many cases of trailers blowing up due to onboard propane fill ups going wrong, gasoline fill ups gone wrong, and or connections being made inside the trailer even though code does not allow it.

I am more worried about the smokers I see at the pumps ALL THE TIME! I run all my gas appliances while on the road and while fueling up and in 18 years have never had or seen an issue!

Like you say. its all about your own comfort zone!
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