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Old 07-20-2004, 09:36 PM   #197
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The black tank was a b....itch on both the 59 and the 58 - 59 finally went after with a sawsall, the 58 I cut a bunch of plumbing underneath and pulled it from top. This probably won't apply to your trailer because yours is a bit different.

Are you trying to get your tank out?

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Old 07-21-2004, 01:46 AM   #198
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The black tank was a b....itch on both the 59 and the 58 - 59 finally went after with a sawsall, the 58 I cut a bunch of plumbing underneath and pulled it from top. This probably won't apply to your trailer because yours is a bit different.
Are you trying to get your tank out?
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Ken,
I totally agree..it's a B...ith~ the problem is rusted bolts thru a wooden floor and, of course..as you turn them..the whole mess spins~! There's no way to get at it from the top..UNLESS..And I don't wanta go there yet`
This appears to be a combo of a mistake made at the factory 40 yrs ago and, a sloppy PO who elected to just tape a burst water pipe. He did repair one of the pipes..(??) by taking a out the section of copper pipe and replacing it with a common green garden hose..YUCK~!
My guess is, afterwards..he just said the h#ll with it and, taped the other one with electrical tape~ YIKES~How dumb can you be?? Well, this guy takes the "Oscar"..
Now for the factory's part in this..
The hot water tank and fresh water system both have "drain valves" located in the rear which, when opened, drain out a very small cut out next to the sewer drain valve..With me??
The wit'less at the factory route the two copper pipes ending out the side opening of the sewer valve~!! instead of coming over less than two inches to the proper hole..Naturally the water, when drained, either ran into the "black water pan" during the draining process or near the end..Either way, the effects of both parties when combined, ended up causing the pan to rust out~Just no other way..
Now, what will I find afterwards is anyone's guess..
I'm hoping the tank itself is okay but..With this unit and the way it was treated, it's still up in the air.
I'll be able to say for sure SOON...lol
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Expect an PM..Just bear with me as I have out of state visitor and, time is tight to some extent..
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Old 07-21-2004, 08:29 PM   #199
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If the bolts are rusted, is the floor rotted?
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Old 07-22-2004, 07:52 AM   #200
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If the bolts are rusted, is the floor rotted?
Not in that sense, from what I've seen of it so far..
The rusted bolts seems to be uniform, in that, it's the same all the way around. (One section of the pan was completely rusted thru, mostly on the lower level..As you go up toward where the bolts are it's solid and no signs of rust at all..)
It was soft in one spot, just in front of the foot pedal for the john..I've treated that..
For what I can see or touch, it's seems normal for a unit this old.
The one area that I would like to see more of is under the water heater but, I haven't pushed that issues as the tank is clean all the way around..(No signs of rust or leaks)
Any suggestions would be helpful~
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Old 07-26-2004, 02:56 AM   #201
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Today was a nice day to try and clean up the dreaded silicone from around the window.
For some reason, the PO thought that the logo was the source of leak and, really went to town sealing all around it on both the front/rear window~
If you compare the first pictures on page one, you get an idea just how much was there before.
Still...
It seems when ppl get their hands on this stuff, they go "HOG" wild..lol
btw, while cleaning off the stripper, I discovered REAL SOURCE FOR the leak~! It was the the middle running light, which wasn't fasten down securely. Upon moving it a bit, I saw a big, gaping hole under it~YUCK...
Looks like we'll have to remove the light and, install a rubber gasket sealer for water-proofing this~Maybe a new light altogether.
You just never knows where the source for a leak will show up~!!
This is the after picture.
The work isn't completed but, Momma Red Bird was unhappy with my pressence..I quietly moved on...lol
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Old 07-26-2004, 12:52 PM   #202
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Project was to see if I could clean up the rear window, etc.
This is a before picture of that area, which is so similar to what the front looked like before i cleaned it up yesterday...
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A few after picures

Just wanted to say~
Using the secret weapon...Sure help'd clean this mess up~
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Old 07-26-2004, 03:44 PM   #204
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Permatex Gasket Remover? Worked well for us~

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Vern,

The sealant removal looks good, but what is going to take that eerie blue color off the skin???
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Old 07-26-2004, 04:24 PM   #206
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Vern,
The sealant removal looks good, but what is going to take that eerie blue color off the skin???
Once I remove the tarp~lol

Shari,
the stuff I used is like citrus stripper but only in the purest oil form..
disolves the guck on contact as well as the gloves I was wearing~!!
It almost ate a hole in my finger..YIKES~
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Hey Vern - When I first took over ownership of my baby - the black water tank was being held up by....the toilet. No box, no belly pan. It's a wonder I still had them both when it arrived. And there was nothing wrong with the tank, so I really have know idea why they were both removed and never replaced unless the PO wanted to give the critters easy access?!

No idea on the mystery item, but I do have the stabilizers on the back of mine. Let me know if you still need a picture.

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Hey Vern - When I first took over ownership of my baby - the black water tank was being held up by....the toilet. No box, no belly pan. It's a wonder I still had them both when it arrived. And there was nothing wrong with the tank, so I really have know idea why they were both removed and never replaced unless the PO wanted to give the critters easy access?!
No idea on the mystery item, but I do have the stabilizers on the back of mine. Let me know if you still need a picture.
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Gillian,
If you don't mind..I'd like to check out the picture, for comparsions~
I'm off to Va Beach...See ya soon..
Meanwhile, the mystery item remains unsolved~
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Old 08-10-2004, 02:46 PM   #209
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The weather was awesome~!
What with the crashing waves twinkling,
Sea foams spreading,
Reaching outward on the wet sand..
Not a Sea Gull to be seen..
Odd the power of a angry, mad, rushing storm..
Such was displays of Hurricane Alex..

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Was concerned about you. knew that you were in the vacinity of the hurricane. Glad to know that you enjoyed it. You got home just in time for some (not so) nasty weather around here!

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