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Old 09-06-2010, 09:47 PM   #15
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Hi Shari.
So glad that you are posting in regard to your waste system redo on Maxwell.
Thank - you for keeping us informed on your progress.
I have been just waiting for someone to do some work on one of these. My 64 TW has the same set up. Do you have the funky grey water double wye that comes in to the main waste pipe?? Have not been able to find the correct replacement part for that double wye...been putting my repair off to see what somebody else comes up with. Wish I could have saved my swirl-o-matic... the flapper was snapped off when I bought the TW.... and I was nieve and was thinking it would be easy to swap out. I found out different.

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Old 09-06-2010, 10:29 PM   #16
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Thanks Karol - glad you are getting something from this thread.

We have awe, the wye....we have a fitting that should work with the tank. Everything else will be replaced - new dump valve, and all the pvc to the grey lines can be adjusted to fit using the existing layout as a "go by". You can see the original grey line still attached to the wye thingy sitting on top of the tank in post #14. The new wye thingy is show in the photo in this post. It's not an exact replacement, but we can't see why it won't work...we got it from a friend (thanks Mark!) who did this project and used this part on his '64 Overlander a couple of years ago. The valve we are planning on using is from VTS.

Stay tuned...I'll let you know how it all lays out in the next week or so, as we are anxious to get this complete.

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Old 09-07-2010, 09:20 AM   #17
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thanks for posting all this. I believe a similar job will be in my future. The toilet in my 66 leaks, but not yet sure where, probably near the tank/dump line joint. The inlet water hose and one small one up front by the tank, are cracked so I can't yet run water in long enough to find the leak near the toilet.
Hope to do so soon.
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Old 09-07-2010, 09:54 AM   #18
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Where did you get that wye thingy? (a.k.a. "collector") they don't seem to make them anymore...
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Old 09-07-2010, 10:31 AM   #19
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Where did you get that wye thingy? (a.k.a. "collector") they don't seem to make them anymore...
A friend gave it to us knowing that we had the same set-up he had. He found them at an old RV shop in Oklahoma several years ago and bought them up then brought them the the RMVAC Rally. We've had it at least 3 years waiting for the inevitable project. I did notice Inland RV has a similar collector fitting with a valve, but I haven't seen it in person - it looks like it may be made from more "normal" PVC parts (I could be wrong), but it is definitely bigger than the one we have. We have that as a back-up plan in case the one we have doesn't work. We'll see next weekend after the rest of our parts come in...

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Old 09-07-2010, 05:28 PM   #20
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So far, so good. We ordered up the new black tank pan - it should be ready by noon on Friday - just in time to continue with the project this weekend. Cool!

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HI Shari.

Once again.... Great Thread!

The Wye thing I have is a little different.... Double... a feed on either side of main waste, due to the galley sink and shower drain being on opposite sides of the TW.
I may have to salvage the wye that I have when I redo my black tank and just keep the modification that made the old hookup work with with a standard waste hose. I have purchased a bunch of parts that I know I will need sooner or later... just have not stumbled across the illusive double wye thingie.
Redoing one of these old Airstreams really keeps one thinking.

Still getting a lot out of your endeavor and love the photos that accompany.
Waiting to see what happens next.

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Old 09-07-2010, 05:58 PM   #22
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HI Shari.
Once again.... Great Thread!
The Wye thing I have is a little different.... Double... a feed on either side of main waste, due to the galley sink and shower drain being on opposite sides of the TW.
I may have to salvage the wye that I have when I redo my black tank and just keep the modification that made the old hookup work with with a standard waste hose. Redoing one of these old Airstreams really keeps one thinking.
Still getting a lot out of your endeavor and love the photos that accompany.
Waiting to see what happens next.

Karol
Oh...I think the double you describe is what we used on our '56 Safari. We have two gray tanks - one on either side of the black valve - I think we used the double to tie them together...

I'll check this evening and let you know...as well as where we found it.

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ahh...NOS gold, I see. otherwise..."unobtainium".

We were just chatting about this on a thread last week. The pic on Inland's site is actually a plain-old hardware store abs fitting, with a glued on thetford slinky adapter. Look at the page again: the valve is not included; its just there for illustrative purposes.
But this standard fitting won't attach to the thetford dump valve like the old thetford collectors, which have a proprietary flange that attaches to the valve with screws. so it can also be un-attached, should the need ever arise.
The inland solution would have to be glued to another type of thetford valve, and once its glued, it ain't coming apart. A great idea, for those who don't have a NOS gold reserve.
Valterra makes the same type of fitting, too..but that will only mate to a valterra valve...which won't mate to your blank tank...without custom making an adapter plate.
(there's an article on vintageairstream.com that describes that process.)
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I found it Karol! This is what we used in our '56 Safari...it may work for you, but I'm not sure. All our fittings & tanks were new so we were able to be more flexible with what we used.

Part #20101

It's from the Nolan's RV catalog, but I'm sure others carry it too.

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P.S. from the looks of Chuck's near simultaneous post...it may not work with the old tank.
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p.s. mine is a double, too. not for 2 grey tanks...just 2 grey drains.
no reason those lines couldn't be tied together before reaching the collector, though, should the need arise to replace it.
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I found it Karol! This is what we used in our '56 Safari...it may work for you, but I'm not sure.

Part #20101

It's from the Nolan's RV catalog, but I'm sure others carry it too.

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those are the valterra fittings that I mentioned in my post above. you'd have to do a fair bit of finagling to get those to work.
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Old 09-07-2010, 06:21 PM   #27
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those are the valterra fittings that I mentioned in my post above. you'd have to do a fair bit of finagling to get those to work.
Yep, I got that...right after I posted. Then went to add P.S. and you posted again...JINX!

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Old 09-07-2010, 06:44 PM   #28
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Thanks for the info Shari and Chuck!!

Like I said... old AS redos get you thinking.


I did a glue-on ring to the old dump flange ( right after I bought the TW ) to accomodate a valterra fitting as the original flange did not fit current thedford or valterra fittings and thedford fittings are no peice of cake to find in a pinch.
That Part 20101 may work.
I have no idea what it will look like in there and what will be salvagable until I start taking things apart.

Always have a plan 'B'.

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