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Old 05-10-2012, 08:27 AM   #29
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When people come in to look at my Bambi II I tell them to stand in the middle, do a 360 degree turn around. They have now had the Grand Tour. ☺
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:15 PM   #30
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Moving day...

Will post pictures later (I hope they turned out- we dropped our camera on a campout Mother's Day weekend and we cannot see anything in the screen/viewfinder...but Lynn did try to take some pictures).Yesterday we loaded up the Bambi II onto my buddy's car trailer to take it to another buddy's home/shop (we are all co workers) so that we can tackle the front frame/tongue rust. It was harrowing watching the old Bambi back there through the truck mirrors- kind of bobbing along for the ride. All of the straps and come-alongs held tight and we made it safely.I is also interesting to note that the front 1/3 of the floor is out as well as the front inner-skin. This all makes one aware of the meaning of monocoque construction and how every part makes the others stronger.Hopefully we will be able to make repairs to the frame quickly and get the trailer back on my property, but I am fine if it takes a little while. We like the additional parking spaces in our driveway!
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Old 05-23-2012, 11:53 AM   #31
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I is also interesting to note that the front 1/3 of the floor is out as well as the front inner-skin. This all makes one aware of the meaning of monocoque construction and how every part makes the others stronger.
Did you install any sort of x-arm bracing, say 2x4's going from walls to frame or anything?
I have to do that, drive it over an hour at approx. 65+ mph, and will have the interior totally removed. Wondering if I should cross brace or something.
I was thinking it would have double shock ability (both trailer and car trailer) to help reduce the impact/vibration.
I'm not looking forward to this!


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Old 05-23-2012, 07:47 PM   #32
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Did you install any sort of x-arm bracing, say 2x4's going from walls to frame or anything?
I have to do that, drive it over an hour at approx. 65+ mph, and will have the interior totally removed. Wondering if I should cross brace or something.
I was thinking it would have double shock ability (both trailer and car trailer) to help reduce the impact/vibration.
I'm not looking forward to this!

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I did not brace it at all. I know I have seen pictures of people doing all kinds of things to brace the body of their trailer when it is removed from the frame, etc...truth is, I can't see it makes a difference. You always see pictures of the employees carrying detached shells, lifting them with cranes, etc. Seems to me that the structure, even when not everything is tied together- is safe enough for quick moves. I might brace it somewhat when I bring the trailer home...I intend to tow it home, not trailer it.
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Old 06-10-2012, 02:20 PM   #33
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New tongue/front frame COMPLETED!

Well, long story short we towed it up to my buddy's home with no problems. We had to wait until school was out to get to it, but then we completed the job in one morning. My buddy replicated the entire front frame and tongue/coupler- including the monster plate that goes up behind the front skin to support the spare tire holder.

He then stick welded the entire assembly into place and fishplated it for extra strength. Once we got it home (a harrowing experience considering the front shell had no support at this point- but we made it with minimal damage to the bottom skin) I got a chance to prime the fresh metal, but am fighting some tendonitis right now, so I did not get the paint on yet. That will probably be tomorrow morning.

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Old 06-10-2012, 03:41 PM   #34
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Aaah, I see you didn't lift off, but your sure got a lot done! Your front plate (that the spare tire was mounted to) really is there to keep your trailer shell on. My Bambi II had the tire holder in the back. Pretty sure they were after-market. My hubby made me a spare tire holder that mounts under the trailer in the front A frame. He made it out of conduit, so it wasn't pricey either! Keep up all the great work, Ben!
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Old 06-10-2012, 05:39 PM   #35
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Looking good Ben! You should come to The Bash III in July. Your Scotty or your van is welcome. There will be many vintage AS's to see.

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Don't know if you like this idea but.... We fabricated a dual battery tray and mounted it behind the propane bottles on our B II. Suspended below the tray is a spare tire. It's an emergency spare off an '80s Chrysler product ($15 from salvage yard). A standard tire would be too wide to provide ground clearance. Had the cover fabricated at a sheet metal shop. The top half stores sewer hoses. The 2 golf cart batteries sit end to end. The only measurements needed for the spare tire are matching the bolt pattern and overall diameter.
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Old 06-10-2012, 09:02 PM   #37
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Looking good Ben! You should come to The Bash III in July. Your Scotty or your van is welcome. There will be many vintage AS's to see.

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Hi Ace-

Thanks for the invite. We feel welcomed...and I know I could come with the Scotty or the Corvair van (or both- see attached pictures of a car show we attended yesterday with the rig- lots of lookers and lots of stories were told- "We traveled in a caravan of 250 Scottys out West when I was a kid!"; "My family of four went across country in one of those little trailers!").

I am strapped for time this Summer with doctoral classes, and Lynn is expecting another baby at the end of the Summer. Because of these two things, our travels will be short and close this Summer. I do want to make the Bash sooner than later, though. Sounds like one heck of a party! We are hoping to make the Big Little Rally in August- if the doctors give the OK and Lynn is feeling up to it. Hope to see you there!

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Old 07-20-2012, 10:14 PM   #38
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More gutting...

We finally got ahead of the nursery project for the new baby, so for the first time since early June, I got out in the Airstream.

My goals in the beginning had not been to take the entire interior out, but that is the plan now, so I removed the overhead cabinets, all electrical outlets and switches, and some of the univolt/electrical breakers, etc. I am trying to get rid of all the obstructions to removing the lower interior skins.

It felt good to finally get back to it! I am still weighing interiors in my mind, but think I have bunk beds figured out and a split kitchen. Should work well.
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Old 07-21-2012, 05:50 AM   #39
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Do you have any pictures of how the cabinets were attached to the walls (the upper ones)? Mine were out when I got it & I'm not sure of how to attach new ones after/while making them. Glad you're back at it! I can't wait to see your ideas come to life!
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Becky,

Here's a pic from the Overlander that shows how the cabinets were hung. Note the small pieces of aluminum angle in the center support. The locker was also supported by screws that came in from either side.

Our '65 Caravel originally used the same method, including on the unsupported end of the galley overhead cabinet, right by the front door. If I dig hard enough, I can find the PO's 4x4 that held up the failed cabinet support.

When redoing the caravel, I used about 8" of aluminum angle, kerfed so that it would lay against the inner skin. I used 6 bellypan rivets to anchor the angle to the skin. Held well for over 20,000 miles and we never worried about the weight above.

We also screwed through the top of the cabinet into ribs, but didn't do that on the bottom edge -- allowing it to flex. I'd use some of the VTS rubber trim on that edge to prevent chafing as it rubs on the walls.

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Upper cabinets

Hi Becky-

I did not take pictures of the removal of the upper cabinets, but their installation was straightforward. Along the bottom rear and upper front of each cabinet were lengths of thin wood making up the frame of the cabinets. Through these wood pieces went longish sheet metal screws screwed directly into the aluminum inner skin. The rear side of each cabinet was screwed into the closet/bathroom wall respectively. The front side of each had a piece of curved inner wood that was screwed through and into the aluminum.

I attached some pictures of the cabinets in their removed state. Hopefully this will give you an idea of how they are built. You can see the long sheet metal screws in some of the shots. Unlike the other responder's post, there were no aluminum angle brackets to add reinforcement to the installation. Just screws through wood cabinet frames and into the aluminum inner skin. Allowances (voids of frame) were made for the refrigerator vent.

I would like to call you to pick your brain about the insulation process. If you are willing, please PM me your phone number. I am having trouble visualizing the Prodex process. Thanks! Ben
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Old 07-21-2012, 09:08 PM   #42
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Thanks, John & Ben for the pictures! That will help me a great deal when I get to the upper cabinets!! I may use a little of both methods when I make them. Thanks again!
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