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Old 08-30-2008, 02:12 PM   #15
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That's a beautiful Caravel! Usually I'm all 'no Caravel is nicer than mine!', but I have to admit, yours is pretty darn nice I won't let my hubby put a TV in ours though!
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Old 08-30-2008, 06:27 PM   #16
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Just out of curiosity, how is it that Andy can "clearly tell from your photo" that the axle is bad. Can you determine this simply by looking at a photo?
Sure can, with an accuracy of about 99 percent.

Anybody can do it.

Stoop down about 20 feet away from the side of your Airstream.

You should see 2 to 3 inches of the tire/tires, "ABOVE" the top of the wheel/wheels.

If you don't then the axles are bad.

Sometimes, owners are not aware that their axles are bad, when you can't even see the top of the wheels, let alone any tire.

Then for confirmation, check the position of the torsion arm.

http://www.inlandrv,com/articles/dur...xle-92001.html

Lastly, jack up one side of the trailer. The tire/tires should drop about 2 to 3 inches.

After you do this thousands of times, for an extended period of over 42 years, then you get the clues, quickly.

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Old 08-30-2008, 06:43 PM   #17
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Wait a sec! if Fun2bethad posted that photo, and Andy thinks the axle is bad, and Fun2bethad says it it's brand new (from Andy, no less!) then what's goin' on?

a) Was the exterior photo taken pre-replacement?
b) Was it incorrectly installed?
c) Has the new one already gone belly up?
d) Or is this that 1% situation where you guessed incorrectly, Andy?

Regardless, I'd sure hate going through the expense and trouble of getting a brand new axle... only to STILL be told it looked all wrong!
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Old 08-30-2008, 06:58 PM   #18
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I was pondering the same thing .
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Old 08-30-2008, 07:11 PM   #19
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I would guess the difference is in the angle of the photos. Notice Andy said to stoop down and look at the tire, but the photo is from a standing position.
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Wait a sec! if Fun2bethad posted that photo, and Andy thinks the axle is bad, and Fun2bethad says it it's brand new (from Andy, no less!) then what's goin' on?

a) Was the exterior photo taken pre-replacement?
b) Was it incorrectly installed?
c) Has the new one already gone belly up?
d) Or is this that 1% situation where you guessed incorrectly, Andy?

Regardless, I'd sure hate going through the expense and trouble of getting a brand new axle... only to STILL be told it looked all wrong!
I have enjoyed working on Airstreams for over 42 years, because I am not perfect, like a few might like to believe.

If I was perfect, I certainly wouldn't want to be around Airstreams.

Way too much uncertainty with the product and a select few.

I have noticed over the years, that those that find faults, seldom make posts.

Hmmm.

Lets find a fault and pick it to pieces, just like the Marathon tires. How educational and informative.

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I was really being genuinely curious about why it might still look low, Andy - not trying to pick apart your guess at all!

I was teasing you a bit, but it might just be a bit late at night to be a smart alec. No offense meant.

Actually, I've examined the ride height of my own trailer using this exact sage advice of yours!
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Hmmm.

Lets find a fault and pick it to pieces, just like the Marathon tires. How educational and informative.

Andy
Andy,

I think it has more to do with the way you point out that someone's axles are bad so often, many times when someone has posted a picture to show off their new toy. You may be doing it in the interest of safety, but to me it comes off as a little bit rude. It's almost funny how predictable it has become when someone posts a picture of a vintage unit.

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Well......it took me 44 years of living but I finally molded the Caravel I'd always wanted. I purchased this trailer about 5 years ago and desperately wanted to redo the interior but couldn't afford it. Well, my wife and I own an internet business and we had a great year last year so I finally took the plunge. I'm including photos of the new interior. Replaced is the oven (I just can't do a microwave.....camping is about taking your time and relaxing), counter top (with granite), sink (I love copper), upholstery and carpet. Life is good!!
I can see how life would be good! What a nice little trailer! Good job!
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Andy,

I think it has more to do with the way you point out that someone's axles are bad so often, many times when someone has posted a picture to show off their new toy. You may be doing it in the interest of safety, but to me it comes off as a little bit rude. It's almost funny how predictable it has become when someone posts a picture of a vintage unit.

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Interesting enough, the vast majority of owners that didn't know they had bad axles, express many thanks and appreciation to us for pointing it out, not so much for them to do someting, but to make them aware.

Since bad axles can be a safety issue, a destruction of the trailer and some of it's components issue, a unnecessary extra repair expense issue, again expressed appreciation abounds.

We are sorry that you are offended by us trying to be helpful to those that are not aware that they have a problem with their Airstream.

We are also sorry, that you take personal offense when we see a photo that shows someone has an axle issue.

Of course it can be predicted. How else could we do it unless we see a photo?

So far, we are happy to report, your feeling of rudeness, is in the minority of one, as opposed to many hundreds of thank you's, even though they may purchase other brands of axles.

And so it is.

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Anton66, from what i understand, aprox 3" of the tire above the rim should be showing. If not the axles are in need of replacement. This was the case for me, after they were replaced there was a noticeable differance.
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Anton66, from what i understand, aprox 3" of the tire above the rim should be showing. If not the axles are in need of replacement. This was the case for me, after they were replaced there was a noticeable differance.
There are many variables. It is not always easy to tell from a photo. Airstream used high profile and low profile axles, making the difference in the wheel-well to tire look again very difficult to tell.
And then, we've seen perfectly good looking axles that had zero suspension, ( like the ones in my 63 Overlender) and some that looked too low that rode very soft and nice. It's best to follow Andy's advice and jack up one side and actually see if the suspension still moves.
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Axle photo...

Sorry Andy, I didn't mean to start anything with my question, however I would like to know if the picture was taken before or after the axle replacement?
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Funny how life repeats itself.

The photo of the trailer was taken a few months ago......about 4 years after the axle was replaced. Prior to owning this Caravel, I owned another one prior and had real issues with the replacement axle that was installed by Airstream. At that time, it was clear that Inland RV and Airstream had an ax to grind. Take a look at this prior thread:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f437...ory-18035.html

Andy....I don't mean to be disrespectful either but it is really disconcerting to hear you say that my trailer needs a replacement axle when you all are the ones that sold me the replacement a few years ago. I'm not sure how else I can't be in the 1% with a new axle.
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