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Old 09-08-2007, 10:54 PM   #15
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In case any of you have looked at the Airstream web site lately, the new one is up and running Airstream, Inc :: Home . It apears to me that they have greatly reduced some of the floor plans in the Safari and Classic models with the exception of adding the new Safari Sport models. The other thing i noticed is that all the Classic floor plans now have dinettes, none with the folding/exteneding tables from the side.

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Thanks for the replies. As noted the 34' will be roughly 90K plus or minus 10K new and that is serious money. However 90K doesn't buy much of a motorhome or at least not anything comparable to a nice airstream. I had forgotten to ask how they pulled and everyone who has owned one remarked without prompting how nice they are to pull. I really like the idea of a triple axle with disc brakes. The only thing missing is my dream trailer (with apologies to Don Blanding's poem Vagabond House) doesn't yet exist. It would be a 34' slide out with the Hardwood cabinetry and leather of a Classic mated to a linoleum or hardwood floor with the all aluminum interior of my SE. Apparently Airstream doesn't build a 34' with the SE interior. Maybe someday, for now I am really pleased with my 25' for the 20-30 2-5 day trips I take each year going to shooting tournaments.

I'm still trying learn the fine art of maneuvering a trailer, its getting better though but I am constantly looking to park in uncomplicated places where there is an easy exit. How much more difficult is the 34' to maneuver over the smaller lighter trailers?
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Old 09-08-2007, 11:57 PM   #16
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...As noted the 34' will be roughly 90K plus or minus 10K new ....The only thing missing is my dream trailer... doesn't yet exist. It would be a 34' slide out with the Hardwood cabinetry and leather of a Classic mated to a linoleum or hardwood floor with the all aluminum interior of my SE. Apparently Airstream doesn't build a 34' with the SE interior. Maybe someday...
hi brad

base msrp on a 34 is 91,993$ without slide and 99,913$ with slide....

add the basic options (solar, gen prep, ultraleather, bigger ac, bigger fridge, bigger lp tanks, electric jacks, 50amp...

will add another 10k.

tack on audio upgrades, video upgrades, satellite radio and a 600 watt inverter...

and that's 5k more.

of course this is msrp not dealer selling price.

keep in mind the 'leather' isn't real but very nice anyway.

YOU CAN order a classic without carpet. i did, mine is all vinyl flooring and hickory woodwork...

there are several pix of the interior/floor tacked into the other 34 threads....

i'm not aware of any built yet without padded ceiling or mouse fur,

but i am pretty certain you could order/spec the aluminium interior walls for an up charge.

there has been talk of building a shinny interior classic unit...

3 axles are great. 6 discs are great. driving is easy with a haha.

backing up/parking takes more 'running room' but it is very easy to do...

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Old 09-09-2007, 12:09 AM   #17
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In case any of you have looked at the Airstream web site lately, the new one is up and running Airstream, Inc :: Home . It apears to me that they have greatly reduced some of the floor plans in the Safari and Classic models with the exception of adding the new Safari Sport models. The other thing i noticed is that all the Classic floor plans now have dinettes, none with the folding/exteneding tables from the side.
hi motoman...

the website is new and only partially loaded....

looking at the floorplans from the brand new packet i received today...

i see NO deletions on the classics OR safaris.

25-34 classics, 31 has 2 different dinette options (chairs or booth)

31 and 34 still have the multiple lift up tables, like they've had for 20 years.

of course the fb models all have the end dinette both, but that's unchanged.

along with the 2 s sports, the other safaris are...

19, 20, 23, 25, 25ss, 28 these are all availabe as safari or safari se...

also the 27 fb safari/safari se

the safari slide model was dropped after 05-06.

the option list is pretty long for all of these units.

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hey brad and other triple wannabees...

it might be more useful IF this thread was moved to the 2007/2008 classic 34 section.

that's basically what it is about right? it's not really a poll.

folks looking for info on the new 34s will look in the section with that heading title...

i posted the specs, prices and options for the long classics (30,31,34) from 2005 here...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f296...res-27055.html


it is still useful for new units (same basic stuff) but i've got the complete price list, options, specs, standard equipment and floor plans for ALL of the current models (classics, safaris, ccd, dwr, basecap, interstate) and will gradually put those up in the next few days...

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Old 09-09-2007, 11:51 PM   #19
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What happened to the 34' trailer

Your right not really a poll, more of a history question. But I am new and wasn't sure where to go. When I bought my 25' there was a 34' trailer in for servicing and it was a dandy. Salesman mentioned that the 34' used to be some of the most popular trailers in the Airstream line but they have steadily lost popularity in the last 20 years. I was curious, hard to pull? structurally unsound over such a long body? what? It was a proud looking vehicle. I was at the Grand American Handicap trapshoot last month and there were hundreds (800-1000) RVs of all types including several hundred of the huge Class As by Newell, Tiffin, Prevost, Marathon and others I have never heard of. The only dealer on-site was a Prevost conversion dealer. In fact at all the big shoots I go to the most popular RVs are really big 5th Wheels or huge motorhomes. So, yes I suppose a 34' has a MSRP of 91-110K dollars and that's a good buck but it is far less than a really good motorhome. A lot of my friends have 5th wheels and they don't look so good after 6 years or so on the circuit. I tried one and the supposed advantage of pulling is non-existent. Hated it, felt like a fight on those secondary roads from tournament to tournament. I was just curious how something with the class of a big Airstream loses so much of a marketshare to the 5th wheel or motorhome crowd. By the way my 25' is easy to pull and I don't have a Hensley which supposedly makes the job even easier. In retirement when the trips are for 2-4 weeks and not 2-4 days and my wife can travel more than she is able to presently I can definately see a 34' parked in the driveway. Cheers.
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hi brad

i'll take a stab at answering your question.

until recently (last 4-6 years) much of the a/s sales were tired to members IN the wbcci.

20 years ago, club members and especially club officers often upgraded their image by going to the 34s.

it was very common to attend an international rally and see 100s of the 34s...

this groups of officers, past/present started aging and opting for large class a moho as a/s began to offer them....

partly for ease, partly for space and mostly for status the line of vice presidents and future presidents want to be seen in the top of the line a/s products...

so class a moho began to replace 34s as the 'wb' must have unit.

NOW the wbcci has very LITTLE impact on total a/s sales.

the club is essentially irrelevant to new/modern/young/first time a/s buyers now.

this demographic wants the a/s look but with a more modern interior like the ccds and safari se...

the 34 is still only available as a classic. no ccds or dwr or ikea trimmed units yet...

it would be nice if they'd just change the hickory wood styling and door inlays...

they finally stopped putting beveled mirror inserts in all the doors (the harem look) just last year.

the new a/s customer is mostly interested in small units and those up to 25.

perhaps some day these buyers will want progressively larger units, as past experience has shown...

often a used 34 will sell for less than a comparable 30 or 28...

folks aren't sure if they can "handle" the 34...truth is, it tracks and tows very smoothly.

i've got 45,000 miles on mine in just 2 years and would not want it to be one foot shorter.

i love the triple axles too.

as you've seen the rv world is dominatied by mega mohos and 5th wheels...

so a 34 is svelte in this company, and really can go almost anywhere.

i'd love to see the factory do a complete make over of the interior, with modern refined and still classic materials... and a new floor plan or 2.

cheers
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lastly i don't think a/s 'lost market share' on the 34s to 5th wheels. as i suggested the 34s lost share to a/s class a mohos, now no longer offered.

the average person shopping midsize 5ers can get 3-4 slides and twice the space for 1/2 the price of a 34.

yes there are some 5ers priced with 34s but most are still 20-30k$ less while offering many more features and space.

the 'long airplane body look' loose appeal to a family that can crank out the slides and watch big screen tell with lazyboys and sofa...
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