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Old 10-22-2007, 09:46 AM   #43
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There are many highly qualified restorers out there that can put you in a "new" vintage trailer for what you are going to spend at a dealer... Your airstream is out there just waiting for you to find her. A newer 19' unit is very heavy compared to a vintage unit of much larger size. You may be able to tow a much larger trailer than you realize. A new bambi today weights more than a Soviegn in 1958. Close to twice the trailer for less weight. If you are thinking new/used, you should look into a restored unit. Things are not constantly breaking on my 1962 and it has never been restored, yet... I am handy. I can make the time to do it myself, not everyone can. Everthing one does on their Airstreams always takes much longer than could ever be expected. Everything on an Airstream will eventually break that is a given... you will have to fix something, that is a given...
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Old 10-22-2007, 01:21 PM   #44
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Sandra,

I don't know when panoramic windows at both ends showed up, but perhaps the short ones never had them. The second one is an option and the first one shows up on the Safari SE, but not the Safari, and I believe is on all the Internationals and Classics. Over the years there are so many models, one has to check everything out.

What we didn't like about the 23' and shorter was that in the ones with rear beds and baths, the bathroom door hits the bed and we had to go into the bath sideways. Try sitting on the toilet—we're 5'9" and 5'10"—our knees hit the door. How tall will your son get? If he wants to use the bathroom while you're sleeping on the bed, you may be awakened. Sons are full of energy and a 19' may seem really small to him. An older, lighter, bigger model may be a better bet, even for those short trips to the beach. Look for recommendations on restorers. Here in western Colorado, we have few of those resources, but in California you have a lot of support through the Forum.
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Old 10-22-2007, 01:31 PM   #45
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I have to agree with Aaron on this one. From what I read on the newer ones, the repairs seem to never end. We have owned three vintage trailers and they sure seem to be built better.

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Old 10-23-2007, 12:44 AM   #46
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Gene and the rest of the responding guys and gals, thanks again. today we have had fires all over and around us here in San Diego. my office is in Rancho Bernardo which has been burning all day. we don't know how the building is if it's still there. the FRWYs have been closed down so i have been at home all day keeping the baby and the dogs indoors due to all the smoke in the air. we are all packed and ready if we are asked to evacuate...but, it looks like the fire is moving away from us now. while packing up the car i was thinking about my future trailer and thought that all the great points everone made so far really needed to be reconsidered. so i will read all the posts over again because there are some very good advice in them and everytime i think i have come to some decision i read a new post and think...oh that is true as well. so here i am with some time on my hands tonight because going to bed will be hard to do with all that's going on around us. also being faced with the possibility of loosing your home gives you new perspective on a "house on wheels".
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Old 10-23-2007, 01:02 AM   #47
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the fires are tough...

and like so many big natural actions,

they are humbling.

while you continue the tour, take a look at THIS threads...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f396...ast-29471.html

just a couple of guys with an almost 1 year used 23 safari.

they take regular and varied outings and ENJOY the 'steamin...

not so far from you.

highly personalized and fitting 2 the t

so don't over analyze..

and perhaps make it to a socal rally where several happy campers and their trailers can be viewed.

the longer you look, the warmer the aluminum flame glows...

cheers
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Old 10-23-2007, 07:14 AM   #48
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the longer you look, the warmer the aluminum flame glows...
Truer words have never been spoken...
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Old 10-23-2007, 07:25 AM   #49
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I am a new Airstream owner. We bought the 25ft 75th Anniv Edition of the International (07). To a prospective buyer considering vintage vs new, I would recommend vintage if quality is important. The new unit we have looks nice and is of comparable quality to our Forest River Salem LE that we traded in. It is not as good as our first Jayco in terms of apparent workmanship. However, our problems so far have been fixable (leaking roof, furnace problems, propane line leaks etc). Hope this helps the decision.

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Old 10-23-2007, 10:26 AM   #50
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Sandra, I hope the fires stay away. We have a friend here with many friends in S. California and he was showing some anxiety last night. We live in a piñon/juniper/cedar forest in very dry western Colorado and worry about the inevitable fire and hope it comes after we're gone. Barb and I talked about if we had an Airstream we could pack up all our stuff and drive away from a fire.

And, we made a deal on a 2008 Safari SE 25' FB. I know we're paying too much by buying a new one, but the hassles of searching for an older one just didn't fit for us right now. We pick it up Monday in Denver unless there's a blizzard in the mountains (I learned how to drive a stick shift in a snowstorm in 1963, but don't want to learn to tow a trailer over Vail Pass in a storm). I look forward to fixing the "(leaking roof, furnace problems, propane line leaks etc)" in the coming months.

Let us know how you're doing, Sandra. The pictures on CNN look pretty scarey. I've seen several fires in Colorado and Alaska over the years (from a distance) and they are amazing, transfixing and fearsome.

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Old 10-23-2007, 11:17 AM   #51
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everytime i think i have come to some decision i read a new post and think...oh that is true as well. so
that happens to me so many times on here

be safe, we're not near any danger here in venice, but it is on three sides of us. i went for a short run this morning and could see the smoke all around, especially coming from malibu.
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Old 10-23-2007, 11:45 AM   #52
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Having a goal

This thread has lots of good information - lots to think about. When I decided to purchase a trailer I had a goal in mind. I have always wanted an AS but I also wanted something that I could pull with my Jeep that I have about 90% restored. Honestly the newer ones were much too expensive for me..... and they were much heavier than the Jeep could pull.
I searched and stumbled upon a 1981 trailer that is essentially that last of the 70's era. This trailer will be good for us because it is lighter and narrower than it's bigger brothers. It is considered a small bodied trailer.
The trailer is currently undergoing rehab work to get it back in order for travel. This is a lot of work but very enjoyable. Yes I did underestimate the amount of time and some of the expense but I am having a fun time. My only regret is that I had hoped to go camping this fall. (Life got busy and had to back burner the project.) Rehab is new floors front and rear, curtains, cushions, toilet, sandblast and paint entire frame, axles, weatherstripping, refridge etc......
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Old 10-25-2007, 05:44 PM   #53
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Sandra, Are you back online or have the fires chased you to a shelter? Last we heard from you the fires were all around.

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hi Gene,

i'm still here. we were packed but, never had to leave. soo lucky. today i also found out that my office building in Rancho Bernardo is still standing. it was the city that got hit the hardest so far. so tomorrow i will go in to work...yipee. i just feel so bad for all the residents all around me that lost there homes. it's a miracle that so many homes still are standing though...because you can see were the fires just blasted through. next time i have to get out of dodge for any reason at all...i hope it's in an Airstream! thanks again for checking in on me.
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oh Gene, one more thing...

i found a company who is out of Colorado, i think, that restore and remodel vintage trailers. they are called " Timeless Travel Trailers" have you heard of them? they look pretty impressive...and probebly very expensive as well. but, very nice custome work.

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Old 10-25-2007, 11:22 PM   #56
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next time i have to get out of dodge for any reason at all...i hope it's in an Airstream!
We are glad to hear you are okay! We went through a big earthquake in the 80s and at the time had a motorhome. We were lucky... the earthquake was on a Monday and we had been out the weekend before. Hadn't unpacked yet. She was full of water, even had cold beer in the fridge! We just "moved in"... all services in town were out, no water, no sewer, no power... downed buildings.... after that experience we have always had some kind of trailer/camper generally with emergency supplies in it.... just in case! Don't we love our Airstreams!

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