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Old 06-01-2017, 07:41 AM   #99
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Different strokes. Ha.. we tried sleeping in different beds when we had the Bambi. We always camp at altitude, and it's cold at night. Gotta snuggle. I agree the bath is not that big of a deal to me. The 23FB being much larger, but the wife greatly prefers the bath.. I haven't seen the dinette in the newer 23FBs, our dinette isn't circular. The tab,e goes over to the window. We sit across from each other if it's raining and we are inside. I put my feet up on her bench, and she does the same to mine. We did buy a big screen room to take along with us, it got roll down rain covers for all the screens. We can hang out in it for bad weather. We go fo small isolated campsites. Not big RV parking lots. Guess we are not real social. No kids, don't bring the dog. It's perfect for two people getting away.
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Old 06-01-2017, 07:54 AM   #100
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One more thing.....since the table is not centered from side to side and there is more room on one side, we are considering having the table cut smaller. A bit more room would really be ideal.,
Really? Sitting across from one another there is equal room on each side of our table. Unless you're talking about the window side, which is pretty much useless. Honestly, it's my only complaint about the 23FB. I think I would prefer the old booth style over the U dinette. Seems like it would be more stable.
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Old 06-01-2017, 07:54 AM   #101
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Different strokes. Ha.. we tried sleeping in different beds when we had the Bambi. We always camp at altitude, and it's cold at night. Gotta snuggle. I agree the bath is not that big of a deal to me. The 23FB being much larger, but the wife greatly prefers the bath.. I haven't seen the dinette in the newer 23FBs, our dinette isn't circular. The tab,e goes over to the window. We sit across from each other if it's raining and we are inside. I put my feet up on her bench, and she does the same to mine. We did buy a big screen room to take along with us, it got roll down rain covers for all the screens. We can hang out in it for bad weather. We go fo small isolated campsites. Not big RV parking lots. Guess we are not real social. No kids, don't bring the dog. It's perfect for two people getting away.


Agreed! We sleep together at home and would never want to sleep apart on our little adventures. That queen bed is wonderful for us.
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Old 06-01-2017, 07:58 AM   #102
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Yes, oddly enough the person sitting with their back to the bed has more room. The other side is a bit tighter. I guess it's because they are made by hand one by one. Who knows? We each have our 'side' because of this issue. We have talked to others with the same issue.
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Yes, oddly enough the person sitting with their back to the bed has more room. The other side is a bit tighter. -- snip --
No logic to one side being smaller. The mounting should be centered to allow bed conversion. Odd there would be a difference in a '17. Maybe going to 15" wheels shifted the layout some. Ours shifts out to make more room at the back and that puts the surface closer to the galley for prep, but we really don't find it necessary. If you rotate the table, the shift gives more room on one side or the other. Have not found a use for that configuration, but admitting I need extra room would be painful. Pat

Edit - others see it too? Got to check. Maybe we never noticed. Very odd.
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No logic to one side being smaller. The mounting should be centered to allow bed conversion. Odd there would be a difference in a '17. Maybe going to 15" wheels shifted the layout some. Ours shifts out to make more room at the back and that puts the surface closer to the galley for prep, but we really don't find it necessary. If you rotate the table, the shift gives more room on one side or the other. Have not found a use for that configuration, but admitting I need extra room would be painful. Pat

Edit - others see it too? Got to check. Maybe we never noticed. Very odd.


It's a matter of inches but the table falls at just the right place to make it snug at the abdominal area for those of us without our former youthful proportions just on the one side. We talked with someone this weekend with the same issue. They had their table made smaller at Jackson Center. However, if you start Messing with that then the bed will have gaps. We don't use the dinette for a bed currently but when we bring a grandchild it will be an issue.
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Old 06-01-2017, 11:12 AM   #105
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I haven't seen the dinette in the newer 23FBs, our dinette isn't circular. The tab,e goes over to the window. We sit across from each other if it's raining and we are inside. I put my feet up on her bench, and she does the same to mine.
On yours, the dinette is against the window and the wheel well extends under the table--no big deal for two people. My initial thoughts were that for four people (if ever) the two sitting against the window would have limited floor space.

Starting in 2014, they went to the U dinette, putting the wheel well under the u dinette seating.

Anyway...good feedback from everyone. Was just curious how the U dinette was working for others.

First-world problems for sure!
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Old 06-01-2017, 11:43 AM   #106
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I know there was one person who totally removed the table and dinette. They replaced it with a couch and basically use tray tables. Does anyone else know of other changes that can be made? I know there isn't a ton of room to work with.
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Really? Sitting across from one another there is equal room on each side of our table. Unless you're talking about the window side, which is pretty much useless. Honestly, it's my only complaint about the 23FB. I think I would prefer the old booth style over the U dinette. Seems like it would be more stable.
In retrospect I'd rather have the booth style too even though it meant the wheel well was under about a third of the table near the wall.

By the way, surely you know but just in case...you can release a latch under your table and move it away from the window seat to create more room and make that bench side useable.
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Old 06-01-2017, 06:36 PM   #108
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Brought my Flying Cloud 23FB home today for the first time and have discovered a few questions.

1. Are there any of the round 12v outlets? Our previous MH had tons of them and our plugs fit them. If the Airstream has none, I am going to have to replace all of those power cords.

2. Our trailer came with the back up camera installed. After getting home and unhooking, I am trying to pair the receiver with the camera, no joy. Do I have to turn on the camera some way? Is it only live when hooked to the truck and/or the truck is in reverse?

I am going to have to go back to the dealer already. After getting home, we discovered that the bedroom Fantastic Fan is DOA. I know, we should have tested before leaving the dealer.
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Brought my Flying Cloud 23FB home today for the first time and have discovered a few questions.

1. Are there any of the round 12v outlets? Our previous MH had tons of them and our plugs fit them. If the Airstream has none, I am going to have to replace all of those power cords.

2. Our trailer came with the back up camera installed. After getting home and unhooking, I am trying to pair the receiver with the camera, no joy. Do I have to turn on the camera some way? Is it only live when hooked to the truck and/or the truck is in reverse?

I am going to have to go back to the dealer already. After getting home, we discovered that the bedroom Fantastic Fan is DOA. I know, we should have tested before leaving the dealer.
In our 2017 International 23FB, there were no 12V outlets. We had Orange County Airstream add two of them, one in the closet behind the TV for a bit of equipment and another under the dinette. You want to use 12V power where you can, it's much more efficient than AC inverter power - especially when you have no hookups.

For the backup camera, make sure your headlights are on in your tow vehicle. That's what controls the camera power.
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Old 06-01-2017, 07:18 PM   #110
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Welcome to the club, we also have a 2017 23 FB. There are no round 12 volt outlets, they have all been replaced with USB outlets. You may be able to get an adaptor. In order for the backup camera to be powered, the Airstream running lights need to be on. Parking lights or headlights will both do this as long as the Airstream is plugged into your tow vehicle.
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As stated already...cord needs to be plugged into tow vehicle and parking or headlights on to power the camera.

The Fantastic Fans require a PHD to operate. Be sure the speed selector on (not '0'), plus the big toggle switch to 'on', and lastly the smaller toggle to the 'open' position to lift the cover. They are maddening with all the switches.

Congrats on your new trailer. I'm sure you're relieved to finally be able to actually go look at all the things you have had questions about.
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The Fantastic Fans require a PHD to operate. Be sure the speed selector on (not '0'), plus the big toggle switch to 'on', and lastly the smaller toggle to the 'open' position to lift the cover. They are maddening with all the switches.
YOU, SIR, ARE A GENIUS! Turning that one knob off of 0 fixed it!
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