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Old 01-21-2018, 01:54 PM   #477
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Rob, does the tailgate on your F150 clear the jack on the 23D with the equalizer hitch?
Ours is a Reese something-or-other-model WDH. I rotated the jack head 90-degrres and the tailgate doesn't hit, even if the trailer and truck are not quite straight.
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Old 01-21-2018, 01:55 PM   #478
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I love this thread. Sorry I am so late to the party. I have a 2010 FB that I adore...I had mostly used her on the East Coast with not too much boondocking. I'm out west now and have been frustrated by the low clearance. Knocked my black water pipe off...twice...ouch. Fixed it both times, easily, but still a pain in my neck.
So...can you lift the 23' with its double axles? Someone had told me it either wasn't advisable or really hard and expensive? Love this thread and I need to peruse the older posts more thoroughly, so I apologize if I am asking a question that was answered earlier.
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Old 01-21-2018, 02:44 PM   #479
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The 23FB forum

I lifted my 23D. Here is a thread detailing the experience. I am sure it would be similar to the FB, maybe gas line is different.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f382...3d-168184.html

If you are super handy, you can build your own lift kit like Steve of exploremore did on his 23D at this link:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f437...ft-173015.html
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Old 01-21-2018, 02:47 PM   #480
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There is a thread that addresses the lift. Actually more than one.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f437...ft-173015.html

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f437...it-102393.html

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...ed-165578.html

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f142...-166374-3.html

Good luck with your considerations. Pat

Edit - see I was too slow - see above.
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Old 01-21-2018, 03:46 PM   #481
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Question.. They are putting 15" tires on the 23s now. I imagine they are the Goodyear Endurance tires. Do you know if they are D or E rated? I'm in the process of going from 14s to 15s..
Have a copy of a spec sheet for a 2018 23FB on a dealer lot. Spec sheet says "Radial Black Wall Tires, LRC 15" w/Spare & Bracket". Guess that is load range C... Believe that lot trailer had Goodyear Marathon tires, but ours is supposed to have Goodyear Endurance tires - don't know about the load range.
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Old 01-21-2018, 03:51 PM   #482
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Earthdog, While the 23FB and the 23D (now 23CB) are of the same genus, they are definitely different species. That said, there is useful cross-pollination by checking out both this fine thread and the "23D" thread (here: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f142...um-166374.html). Great ideas both places... wander over tho the "other place" from time to time... we'd love to see you there.
Rob - Great idea. I'll check it out and save the site as a favorite.
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Old 01-22-2018, 07:46 AM   #483
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I love this thread. Sorry I am so late to the party. I have a 2010 FB that I adore...I had mostly used her on the East Coast with not too much boondocking. I'm out west now and have been frustrated by the low clearance. Knocked my black water pipe off...twice...ouch. Fixed it both times, easily, but still a pain in my neck.
So...can you lift the 23' with its double axles? Someone had told me it either wasn't advisable or really hard and expensive? Love this thread and I need to peruse the older posts more thoroughly, so I apologize if I am asking a question that was answered earlier.
If you are "out west" and near Portland OR, there is a place that will do the lift for less than $400. I believe it's the Dexter axle dealer. That's where I'm getting mine done. (In a couple of years.) In the meantime I am going from 14" tires to 15", partially to get some clearance, but mostly to get better tire selection.
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Old 01-22-2018, 07:49 AM   #484
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Have a copy of a spec sheet for a 2018 23FB on a dealer lot. Spec sheet says "Radial Black Wall Tires, LRC 15" w/Spare & Bracket". Guess that is load range C... Believe that lot trailer had Goodyear Marathon tires, but ours is supposed to have Goodyear Endurance tires - don't know about the load range.
Thanks. I'll go by the dealer in St Louis and see what's on the new 23FBs. I doubt the overall weight has changed on the 23FB from 2011 to 2018, enough to require a heavier tire. Trip planned for April. The Sendel wheels have been sitting in the garage for a while..
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Old 01-22-2018, 12:12 PM   #485
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Thanks. I'll go by the dealer in St Louis and see what's on the new 23FBs. I doubt the overall weight has changed on the 23FB from 2011 to 2018, enough to require a heavier tire. Trip planned for April. The Sendel wheels have been sitting in the garage for a while..
Just got off the phone with Airstream in Jackson Center. Our 2018 23FB that is scheduled to be built in March will have Goodyear Endurance 225 75 R15 tires, Load Range E, 2830# carrying capacity per tire.

The 2018 Flying Cloud 23FB brochure lists Hitch Weight (with LP & Batteries) 467#; Unit Base Weight (with LP & Batteries) 4806#; Max Trailer Capacity (GVWR) 6,000#; Net Carrying Capacity 1,194#.

Hope this helps you.
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Our 2018 23FB that is scheduled to be built in March will have Goodyear Endurance 225 75 R15 tires, Load Range E, 2830# carrying capacity per tire.
I have a 2018 23FB and that's the tire mine came with.
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I have a 2018 23FB and that's the tire mine came with.
May I ask what your tow vehicle is and what weight distribution hitch you use? If your TV is a pickup, are you able to lower the tailgate without it hitting the jack? Thanks!
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Thanks earthdog. I need to get the Es on order. I'm pretty sure those weights were the same as the 2011, or close enough. I'm thinking about going with a tire pressure monitoring system, but haven't needed one for 30 years, and not sure if I want to spend the money or hassle with it now. I know why people get them, JT I watch my tire pressures and temps pretty closely, and have never had a problem.
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May I ask what your tow vehicle is and what weight distribution hitch you use? If your TV is a pickup, are you able to lower the tailgate without it hitting the jack? Thanks!
I tow it with my wife's Mercedes GLE 350. I have an F-150 3.5 on order and will use that once it comes in. No issues with the GLE we just need a truck bed for grills, bikes, etc.

Here is the hitch I am using and have been very happy with it.

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May I ask what your tow vehicle is and what weight distribution hitch you use? If your TV is a pickup, are you able to lower the tailgate without it hitting the jack? Thanks!
For what its worth, I tow my 2017 23FB (TV = 2015 Nissan Titan) using an
Equal-i-zer weight distribution hitch (https://www.equalizerhitch.com/store/hitches/1-000-10-000-lb-equal-i-zer-sway-control-hitch-with-pre-installed-hitch-ball). As long as the TV and trailer are fairly well aligned in a straight line, the tailgate clears the jack with no problem.

PS/ As a newbie last year (first travel trailer) it did take a while to get used to this hitch. I found that when hitching/unhitching on an uneven surface where either TV or the trailer were pitched to one side relative to one another, it was very difficult to pry one of the sway bars on/off its bracket (likely why the hitch came with such a robust "snap-up lever"). I eventually found that when on an uneven surface if I roughly leveled the TV and trailer (by first backing one side of the TV rear wheels or trailer wheels onto a leveler) hitching/unhitching became immensely easier.

I'm now very comfortable with this hitch and I feel very much in control when towing.

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