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Old 11-12-2017, 11:57 AM   #407
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re: peskier's post above about 23FB vs 23D (now the 23CB)....

I agree with everything you've stated. There's no easy answer, as something has to be compromised.

We are very happy we ended up with the 23CB. There's so much more living space inside.

I think, if you are doing shorter trips, and like to be outside all night, most nights, at a campfire, then maybe you don't care about having more living space inside. But, if you want to be able to spend more time, comfortably, inside, then you might be happier with the 23CB.

I don't mind having the smaller, tighter bathroom. The small bed can be a challenge for two people. We're experimenting with sleeping head to toe (works pretty well!), and switching from our usual sides (for some reason, that helps too).

Our dog loves his space under the dinette.

The 21 gallon grey water tank is a little challenging if you take showers...even super short showers...that thing can fill up fast. So, helps to have hookups so you can dump the grey tank, or catch the water in a tub and dump it outside somewhere legal.

Ultimately, a personal choice on where to compromise. For me, ended up great that we got the CB.
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Old 11-12-2017, 12:42 PM   #408
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Just a reminder that there is also a 23D thread, in case anyone wants to check out the features of that model, now called the 23CB [corner bed]:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f142...ad-166085.html

If you are seriously considering the 23CB model [CB = "compromised bed" ??? ], you owe it to yourself to lie in that corner bed on a really hot steamy day . . . with two people . . . for a few hours. No thanks.

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Old 11-12-2017, 03:24 PM   #409
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If you are seriously considering the 23CB model [CB = "compromised bed" ??? ], you owe it to yourself to lie in that corner bed on a really hot steamy day . . . with two people . . . for a few hours. No thanks.

haha!!! No argument from me. Ya gotta have a strategy though. Our strategy is...a/c, or, pull out the lounge bed so that one of us can sleep on that. Will have to wait until next summer to see how this plays out.
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Old 11-13-2017, 10:50 AM   #410
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Put my 2017 in the shop. #6 fuse blew and blow each time I replace it. Must be a short some where. The #6 fuse is for the refrigerator fan, furnace, and outlet under the table. Iíve got a 7 year warranty on the AS, so I better get results. Iíll let you know in a couple of weeks.
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Old 11-21-2017, 04:08 AM   #411
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23 fb serenity 1st year -perfect

My first year of ownership has been perfect.
I made trip to JC for minor punch list items.
I had them install 24x24 Kobi butcher block
In place of oem dinette table.
Makes living area and lounge wonderful.
I had them install fridge cooling fan shut off switch(for quiet time).
I keep freezer blocks in freezer to keep cold.
For one or 2 people itís perfection.
I can fuel at any 7 eleven and do u turns
on standard roads.
I really love big bathroom and shower.
Thereís nothing like having big window looking out to the Forrest will getting
ready for my day.
I will post pics when I learn how to do it.
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Old 11-21-2017, 05:18 AM   #412
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Sounds great, but freezer blocks in freezer to keep cold? Whatís that about?
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Old 11-21-2017, 05:53 AM   #413
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My first year of ownership has been perfect.
I made trip to JC for minor punch list items.
I had them install 24x24 Kobi butcher block
In place of oem dinette table.
Makes living area and lounge wonderful.
I had them install fridge cooling fan shut off switch(for quiet time).
I keep freezer blocks in freezer to keep cold.
For one or 2 people itís perfection.
I can fuel at any 7 eleven and do u turns
on standard roads.
I really love big bathroom and shower.
Thereís nothing like having big window looking out to the Forrest will getting
ready for my day.
I will post pics when I learn how to do it.
Tom
Tom,
Good first post! Glad you found this thread. Looking forward to your pics. We too, like that big view from the table. Sometimes I wish it was a rear table, but to get that, you've got to go to a bigger trailer.
I bought a different fan for the fridge, but haven't installed it yet. I'm told it's much quieter. Our fridge hasn't had any issues keeping things cold and or frozen. I'd like to see a picture of the butcher block instead of the table.
Welcome to the 23FB thread.
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Old 11-21-2017, 09:43 AM   #414
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I had them install 24x24 Kobi butcher block

I will post pics when I learn how to do it.
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Let's see that table! The dinette in the FB is the piece of gravel in my shoe--hate it!

Posting pics is kind of a pain...have to click the paper clip link above, then when the window opens, browse for the pic on your computer, than upload it, then go back to the post and click the paper clip again. Not very intuitive or user friendly at all. Hope you figure it out!
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Old 11-21-2017, 10:22 AM   #415
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Question might be use priority?, in my order: 1. Sleep 2. Bath/shower 3. Reading (bed); 4. Dining(2) 5. Cooking (mostly outdoors CampChef hookup; breakfast coffee/cereal indoors) 6. Living area (last as we spend most time outdoors).....just one voice; great to has AS choices. Signed 2017 23FB.
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Old 11-21-2017, 03:22 PM   #416
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24x24 Kobi block table

Attachment 299572

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Attachment 299575

You guys get the picture,
Iím working on the photo
skills. The Kobi block was
150.00 bucks.
Fridge is perfectly cold,
I just shut down at bedtime.
And start at coffee.
I used Walmart reusable ice packs
for my cold drinks at the campfire and to keep the fridge ice cold at bedtime.
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Old 11-21-2017, 04:09 PM   #417
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23 fb serenity bathroom night light

To solve the blinding bathroom light in the middle of the night.
I found repurposed glass block with Ginko
leaf from Etsy.
49.00 bucks.
Itís Murielís bling!
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Old 11-21-2017, 04:32 PM   #418
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23 fb towing with tundra

I have found towing the 23 fb to be a dream.
I have a 2007 Tundra crew max 2 wd with tow package.
E2 hitch with 800 lb bars.
Hitch is clean quick and simple.
I leave stinger on truck.
In 5000 miles towing,I use 4th gear in tow haul with cruise control.
No downshifting and hunting.
The truck stays right in the meat of its
power band.
Uses a little more fuel but not much.
I replaced worn shocks with new oem Toyota shocks.
Huge difference.
Iím just getting some 23 fb observations
out there.
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Old 11-21-2017, 05:04 PM   #419
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Thanks for sharing the pictures, Muriel looks great! I know it's frustrating when the pictures post sideways, but if you resize them that usually fixes the problem.

Thanks also for the info on how you use the fridge and the ice blocks. Makes sense. When we look at a 23FB, we will inquire about an on/off switch and replacing the cheap noisy stock fan with a quiet one.
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Old 11-21-2017, 05:36 PM   #420
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23 fb on ďThe JamesĒ

[attach]299587

Muriel in action at Chicahominy river front park.
James City County Virginia
I recently joined WBCCI tidewater va
chapter.
I plan to do a meet up every 3 rd Saturday
for an evening under the stars.
To talk rivets.
With a casual bike ride Sunday mornings
on the capital trail.
The campground is on the trailhead of bike path. Heated dressing rooms and bathrooms.
32 bucks a night! A full service stellar
campground.
Thanks guys for your help navigating the
forum.
I had a guy stop me at the grocery store, so he could show his wife Muriel.
He said an airstream is on his bucket list!
He has a 5th wheel.
He just wants a traveler.
He said the Airstream is the
ďKing of the roadĒ.
Love it!
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