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Old 05-10-2017, 07:51 AM   #29
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I might already be overloaded. We take a Honda 2000 with us, plus the kayak on rear racks. We have a base model double cab though. Nothing too fancy. No running boards, sunroofs, power seats, etc.. I have to admit, I see thread after thread of folks arguing about weight ratings of tires, axles, diesels, hitches, one ton trucks, mini vans, I thought I had just over bought with a Tundra and a 23FB, so I wasn't too concerned. It pulls, stops, and handles it so well. Might have to do a bit of research.
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Old 05-10-2017, 09:01 AM   #30
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You probably have more payload than I do. The best way to find out is weight the axles and see the actual numbers.

I agree that the trailer and truck feel stable and is a pleasure to drive. I see a lot of light tow vehicles packed and towing bigger trailers than we have.

Keeping all the vehicle and trailer components well-maintained helps.

The one thing that I am curious about is that the door sticker does say that the ratings are based on using "P" tires. If upgraded to load range "E", does this affect the overall load rating?

Maybe its best to be dumb and happy.
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Old 05-10-2017, 10:08 PM   #31
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Fbastian mentioned replacing tanks for aluminum to reduce weight. Don't see the advantage here as there is very little tongue weight on this model.

Happy camping all. Dave
I replaced the steel tanks with aluminum to offset the added weight of the 6-volt LifeLine batteries. I weighed the axles on our Tundra and trailer and was shocked to learn I was 400 pounds over the GVWR. So I am very conscious of weight. I have tried to mitigate the overage by installing load range E tires and rear spring helpers, but it does not alter the fact that I am over, which is why we are starting to consider an F250. The Tundra has been a great vehicle, but as I have found out, it is still a light truck and has limitations, even with a 23FB.

The intent of this post is not to start another discussion on axle weights; just wanted to comment on the weight concerns and the background on switching to aluminum tanks.[/QUOTE]



How much weight do you actually save? I think most of the weight is in the propane when full. I looked at this and I think I calculated 5 pound difference per tank?
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Old 05-11-2017, 09:04 AM   #32
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Steamy - suggest you PM Richw46. He has some involvement with Toyota as a contractor and may be able to answer your question or refer you to the Toyota technical support group that could provide info.

It seems logical that different options would add weight to the vehicle and reduce available payload, but it is not logical that those options would reduce the capacity of the axles and gross weight capacity. Your suggestion that it may be related to tire and I suppose wheel capacity does seem possible. Suppose there could be an upgrade in capacity related to four wheel drive as well. Bet Tundra owners everywhere would like to understand why the gross weight capacity is reduced by options. Pat
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Old 05-11-2017, 09:44 AM   #33
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Very interested in lifting my 23FB. Where should I purchase the Dexter lift kit, and where have people taken their trailer to have it installed?

EasyStart going in next week, and 55 Amp Converter Replacement Kit has worked wonders for my second set of batteries! Still need to install a new frig fan.

Anyone install the bike rack on tongue or rear?
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Old 05-11-2017, 09:45 AM   #34
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What wireless back up camera do you use?
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Old 05-11-2017, 10:14 AM   #35
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Good Morning,
This is in response to previous posts questions and comments;
  • Troutboy-you are correct that the weight savings may only be about 5 pounds a tank, but I was looking at any savings. This just about offset the installation of the LifeLine 6-volts batteries. I am even considering not fully filling the tanks to further reduce weight.
  • PKI-thanks for the lead. I will send a PM as you suggested to try to gain more insight to the weight capacity issue.
  • Wtdogg-I ordered the lift kit directly from Dexter for the #10 axle. the kit includes parts to lift two (2) axles. I have yet to install as I have to find someone I am comfortable with that knows how to properly lift and Airstream. I tried a mobile RV service last summer but he wanted to lift the axle on the tube. I stopped him and we parted ways. I installed the kit on our 19' Bambi, but did not really want to tackle the double axle. I installed the Voyager wireless camera on the 23FN.
Hope this helps. Thanks everyone!
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Old 05-12-2017, 06:26 AM   #36
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I know of one other member here that did the lift on their 23FB, they are from Oregon, I believe Portland area. Their local axle dealer did a great job, at a reasonable price. I plan on getting my 23FB lifted there on the way to Alaska, in a few years. Until then, I'm going to get by with just the 14" to 15" tire and wheel increase.
I'm also just going to continue to pull with the Tundra. It's been fine for years. I guess ignorance is bliss in my case..
one of the nice things about a 23FB.. Not all that much that needs changed.
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Here is a video on the install. Not a 23FB, but still a dual axel. I have a 23D and may try this as I haven't found anyone around me that would do it.

https://youtu.be/lsdveR_gPIA
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Here is a video on the install. Not a 23FB, but still a dual axel. I have a 23D and may try this as I haven't found anyone around me that would do it.

https://youtu.be/lsdveR_gPIA
I had seen another video, that was not this well done. This one is much better. Thanks for posting it. Still not sure I want to tackle it myself. Not much room under my trailer..
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Agree. To me the alignment of the axel, side to side concerns me. Seems like it may be difficult to get that perfect. If it is off, will it impact tracking of the trailer?
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I had my lift kit installed an authorized dealer for Dexter. This company specializes in truck, trailer and rv repairs and service. The total cost to me was $378.00. This was done about a year ago. I also went to 15" tires and wheels.

My main objective was driveway clearance when backing up into my rv driveway.

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Dave, how did you find the dealer?
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I'm just going to go to Oregon.
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