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07-26-2017, 07:49 AM
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#261
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Rivet Master
2017 23' Flying Cloud
Parker
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,772
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I read in another thread here that the advantages of tankless are:
- more energy efficient
- "endless" hot water. So if you have many folks taking a shower you don't have to wait for water to reheat.
-saves water, you don't have to run water and wait as long for hot water to exit faucet.
I love making upgrades. We haven't had any issues with our stock unit, so this is low on the list as of now.
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Troutboy
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07-26-2017, 05:26 PM
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#262
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Rivet Master
2018 23' International
Currently Looking...
SANTA BARBARA
, CA
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,214
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Frustrating, trying to make a deal on a 2018.
Local dealer just pulled the "If you don't buy it here, we won't service you" card. They threatened us with that in 2013 when we bought our Interstate. And they always did our service (their service dept sucks, but that's another story).
Still waiting to hear from the dealer that's an hour away.
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07-26-2017, 07:11 PM
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#263
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2 Rivet Member
2018 27' International
Canton
, Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 52
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Our local dealer, whom we purchased from, always works us in no matter when we call. They have made the comment that their customers get preference over people who haven't purchased from them. They will, of course, service all Airstreams but their direct customers get priority.
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Cindy
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07-26-2017, 07:57 PM
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#264
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Rivet Master
2017 23' Flying Cloud
Parker
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,772
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They have to service all AS. They can't use that as leverage. However, they do give preference to people that purchase from them. Based on my recent experience, it is a 6-8 week difference if don't purchase from them. This was also in peak time.
I got in in 3 weeks when I called. And friend who bought from another dealer was told 8-9 weeks at the same time.
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Troutboy
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07-26-2017, 08:39 PM
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#265
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2 Rivet Member
2018 27' International
Canton
, Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 52
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That sounds about like our experience.
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Cindy
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07-26-2017, 08:57 PM
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#266
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2 Rivet Member
2017 23' International
Santa Monica
, California
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 36
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@weirdstuff if you are in SoCal keep in mind that Airstream LA, Airstream OC, and Airstream IE are owned by the same company. It won't really help to compare pricing between those three dealers.
For what it's worth we bought from Airstream OC and had a very good experience, both sales and service. And we had a bunch of modifications done.
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07-26-2017, 10:45 PM
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#267
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Rivet Master
2018 23' International
Currently Looking...
SANTA BARBARA
, CA
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,214
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rjbrown99
@weirdstuff if you are in SoCal keep in mind that Airstream LA, Airstream OC, and Airstream IE are owned by the same company. It won't really help to compare pricing between those three dealers.
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Thanks. Yes, I do know that.
The one down here in San Diego is independent.
The one in IE is about 1.3 hours from us. They've been nice to deal with. But they are currently operating out of a parking lot. Said they're moving into a big place in Temecula (I think), in a few months, and that they will have a full service center. If that's the case, I'm guessing it'll take a whole lot longer than a few months to build and set up and staff a service center...so, I'm not counting on that.
Seems from other's comments above, it is standard practice to give priority service to customers who purchased from them.
I guess I have to decide whether to drive 1.3 hours to purchase and save $2500, but risk being low priority for service at the nearby dealer. It bugs the heck out of me that they use that threat to pressure you into buying from them.
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07-27-2017, 09:02 AM
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#268
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2020 Globetrotter 25 FBT
2020 25' Globetrotter
Wildwood
, Missouri
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,606
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Troutboy
I read in another thread here that the advantages of tankless are:
- more energy efficient
- "endless" hot water. So if you have many folks taking a shower you don't have to wait for water to reheat.
-saves water, you don't have to run water and wait as long for hot water to exit faucet.
I love making upgrades. We haven't had any issues with our stock unit, so this is low on the list as of now.
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Just the two of us. We haven't run out of hot water or propane yet. Now, if I switch the generator to propane and run the A/C, I'll be going through propane a bit faster. For now, this upgrade would be way down on my list..
Thx!
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2020 25GT FBT
2012 Toyota Tundra Dbl Cab, 5.7 4x4
Previous AS trailers: (04) 19’ Bambi, and (11) FC 23FB
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07-28-2017, 09:20 AM
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#269
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Rivet Master
2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
, Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 6,222
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Finally got around to taking a photo of the Truma AquaGo Comfort instant on water heater door with a customized door (actual airstream side skin riveted to the stock colton door and then the painted trim around the door). This decorative work was done on both the 23D and the Classic that have this model water heater now.
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TV - 2012 Dodge 2500 4x4 Cummins HO, automatic, Centramatics, Kelderman level ride airbag suspension, bed shell
2014 31' Classic w/ twin beds, 50 amp service, 1000 watt solar system, Centramatics, Tuson TPMS, 12" disc brakes, 16" tires & wheels
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07-28-2017, 09:47 AM
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#270
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,801
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Quote:
Originally Posted by weirdstuff
Frustrating, trying to make a deal on a 2018.
Local dealer just pulled the "If you don't buy it here, we won't service you" card. They threatened us with that in 2013 when we bought our Interstate. And they always did our service (their service dept sucks, but that's another story).
Still waiting to hear from the dealer that's an hour away.
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I'd walk off the lot one second after hearing those words. Buyers vote with their wallets. My wallet and I don't think blackmail is a legitimate sales tactic that any Good dealer would use or tolerate from one of its employees.
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07-28-2017, 10:08 AM
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#271
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Walnut Creek
, California
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 3,952
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A stupid salesperson is not a good reason to write off a whole organization. However, a terrible service dept is a really big strike and if management and ownership is the problem, walking away with a brisk step and loud voice is a way AS customers can be part of the solution to work with AS Corp to achieve dealer improvement. Pat
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07-28-2017, 11:15 AM
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#272
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Rivet Master
2015 23' FB International
2007 19' International CCD
Steamboat Springs
, Colorado
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,020
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Quote:
Originally Posted by switz
Finally got around to taking a photo of the Truma AquaGo Comfort instant on water heater door with a customized door (actual airstream side skin riveted to the stock colton door and then the painted trim around the door). This decorative work was done on both the 23D and the Classic that have this model water heater now.
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Switz; can you say this installation has met your expectations and has been a big improvement over the standard tank hot water heater? Has it saved water usage, etc?
You now have me thinking about doing this....
thanks,
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07-28-2017, 11:28 AM
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#273
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Rivet Master
2017 23' Flying Cloud
Parker
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,772
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Quote:
Originally Posted by switz
Finally got around to taking a photo of the Truma AquaGo Comfort instant on water heater door with a customized door (actual airstream side skin riveted to the stock colton door and then the painted trim around the door). This decorative work was done on both the 23D and the Classic that have this model water heater now.
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Looks good switz! Did you have the same outfit do this that did your other mods?
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Troutboy
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07-28-2017, 07:21 PM
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#274
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Rivet Master
2018 23' International
Currently Looking...
SANTA BARBARA
, CA
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,214
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Tomorrow we're driving 1.3 hours to the Airstream dealer to place our order. (Not going to the dealer 15 minutes away).
No matter what I say, or share from your comments here, husband still not convinced that we need awning package. He says we can add it later if we decide we want and need it. He wants to make some kind of covers for the windows, that will shade the windows. So, look for the trailer with some kind of newfangled funky window treatments...and that'd be us.
So, we're going with the Serenity, with the oyster seating (oyster color, not seating for little oysters, though that could be tasty), back up camera, manual awning.
Leaning towards ProPride hitch.
Any last advice before we place our order?
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07-28-2017, 07:35 PM
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#275
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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I lived in San Diego for many years, and know the climate well including deserts to the east. Remind me to tell you about going through Yuma at midnight in 116 F heat with no AC in an old VW!
Missing out on an instant awning package NOW is penny wise, and pound foolish IMO.
No Rube Goldberg window contraption is going to replace good functional awnings.
Period !!!
Good luck.
Peter
PS personally I don't think you need a Pro Pride for the lighter and narrower 23FB but that is not my area of any expertise.
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07-28-2017, 07:48 PM
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#276
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Rivet Master
2018 23' International
Currently Looking...
SANTA BARBARA
, CA
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,214
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OTRA15
I lived in San Diego for many years, and know the climate well including deserts to the east. Remind me to tell you about going through Yuma at midnight in 116 F heat with no AC in an old VW!
Missing out on an instant awning package NOW is penny wise, and pound foolish IMO.
No Rube Goldberg window contraption is going to replace good functional awnings.
Period !!!
Good luck.
Peter
PS personally I don't think you need a Pro Pride for the lighter and narrower 23FB but that is not my area of any expertise.
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This made me laugh!!
Well, I agree with you. I have until manana to convince husband.
You might be right about the Pro Pride. We've never towed before, so it's all new to us. Once thing we do like about the Pro Pride, vs the Blue Ox, is that you don't remove the WD bars each time you unhitch. That seems like it'd be a PIA. We're going off of videos we've watched on line.
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07-28-2017, 07:51 PM
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#277
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Anyone who lives in San Diego, who does not recognize the need to maximize awnings . . . especially if you are going to the desert at some point . . .
Let us all now praise the patient women of the world!
Good luck . . .
Peter
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07-28-2017, 07:55 PM
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#278
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Rivet Master
2018 23' International
Currently Looking...
SANTA BARBARA
, CA
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,214
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OTRA15
If a grown adult man who lives in San Diego does not recognize the need to maximize awnings . . .
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I know!
He keeps saying that, on the 23, there are not enough windows to worry about.
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07-28-2017, 08:02 PM
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#279
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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The solar gain coming through just one of the windows, especially when the outside temp is over 100 F, and the skin of the Airstream is too hot to touch, may eventually change his mind as he is drenched in sweat feeling . . . whatever . . .
You can lead a horse to water . . .
Over and out.
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07-28-2017, 08:11 PM
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#280
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2 Rivet Member
2018 27' International
Canton
, Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 52
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If you are investing all of this money to purchase a unit, just get the awnings. Just my opinion.
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