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07-18-2017, 08:52 AM
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#241
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Walnut Creek
, California
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 3,952
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It does not end, but it does slow down.
Always found that most lifestyles cost the same for all - everything you can afford.
Pat
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07-19-2017, 07:16 AM
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#242
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2020 Globetrotter 25 FBT
2020 25' Globetrotter
Wildwood
, Missouri
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,606
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Staying off of this site will save you some money.. There's a lot of good ideas floating around, but they are not free. Some aren't too expensive though.
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2020 25GT FBT
2012 Toyota Tundra Dbl Cab, 5.7 4x4
Previous AS trailers: (04) 19’ Bambi, and (11) FC 23FB
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07-19-2017, 10:15 AM
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#243
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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Amen to that! Far too many great ideas for improvements come off this site! It's very hard to resist a good idea.
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Rich, KE4GNK/AE, Overkill Engineering Dept.
'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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07-19-2017, 10:31 AM
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#244
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2020 Globetrotter 25 FBT
2020 25' Globetrotter
Wildwood
, Missouri
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,606
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Speaking of good ideas, and spending money. It looks like we are going to get a trip in late this summer. (Lovely wife had hip replacement surgery a few days ago)
Her surgeon says she should be good to go by Sept.
So, I am going to go ahead and get the Goodyear Endurance ST tires mounted.
I've already purchased the 15" wheels from ETrailer. The question is, which GYE 15" tires to get, load range D or E? Which ones have you all mounted, if anyone has switched to 15" GYE? Or, which ones are coming on the brand new 23 FCs?
Thanks,
Jeff
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2020 25GT FBT
2012 Toyota Tundra Dbl Cab, 5.7 4x4
Previous AS trailers: (04) 19’ Bambi, and (11) FC 23FB
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07-19-2017, 10:52 AM
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#245
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Great news that you will be getting back on the road again! I assume you know about this recent GYE thread.
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...ce-170015.html
I seem to recall the GYE E vs. D issue being discussed quite a bit in the older threads as well.
Cheers,
Peter
Quote:
Originally Posted by OTRA15
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07-19-2017, 12:44 PM
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#246
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Rivet Master
2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
, Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 6,222
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The spending tends to stop only when the credit card is maxed out.
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WBCCI Life Member 5123, AIR 70341, 4CU, WD9EMC
TV - 2012 Dodge 2500 4x4 Cummins HO, automatic, Centramatics, Kelderman level ride airbag suspension, bed shell
2014 31' Classic w/ twin beds, 50 amp service, 1000 watt solar system, Centramatics, Tuson TPMS, 12" disc brakes, 16" tires & wheels
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07-19-2017, 06:42 PM
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#247
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2020 Globetrotter 25 FBT
2020 25' Globetrotter
Wildwood
, Missouri
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,606
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OTRA15
Great news that you will be getting back on the road again! I assume you know about this recent GYE thread.
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...ce-170015.html
I seem to recall the GYE E vs. D issue being discussed quite a bit in the older threads as well.
Cheers,
Peter
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Yep, I had been following that one too. Haha! Lots of info around if you want to check on certain things, like tires, hitches, and tow vehicles. I'll hopefully be at my trailer soon, and see what weight rating and ply rating GYM is on it now. Although they are 14s, and I'm going to 15s.
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2020 25GT FBT
2012 Toyota Tundra Dbl Cab, 5.7 4x4
Previous AS trailers: (04) 19’ Bambi, and (11) FC 23FB
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07-25-2017, 09:50 AM
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#248
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2020 Globetrotter 23FBT
2020 23' Globetrotter
Sausalito
, California
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 20
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23 FB shower dimensions?
I'm wondering if anyone here knows the shower dimensions (length x width) in the 23 FB International Serenity. The bathroom looks great in the floorplan, but Airstream doesn't seem to provide these dimensions on the website. Thanks in advance for any info. My husband and I are researching what would be the best model for us and this is a strong contender.
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07-25-2017, 10:11 AM
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#249
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Rivet Master
2019 27' Globetrotter
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 691
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You asked for length (I assume you want height that is 70" max. If you are tall you might have to sit down. Depth is 24" to 28" max. Width is 25" to the seat 37" to the walll. Mine in a 2016 Intl serenety 23 fb.
Hope this helps Dave
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07-25-2017, 10:42 AM
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#250
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2020 Globetrotter 23FBT
2020 23' Globetrotter
Sausalito
, California
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 20
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Thank you Dave! I really appreciate the information. That is an amazing amount of space. I'd call it perfect if only it had the tankless water heater....!
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07-25-2017, 10:43 AM
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#251
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Walnut Creek
, California
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 3,952
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At 6'4", I thought it would be campground only showers. Turned out to be wrong. It's quite functional and preferable to hauling shower stuff across the park. The 23FB bathroom space definitely is preferable to the layouts in most units. You give up a pano window and some floor space, but if you are private in your lifestyle it is certainly worth considering. For those with a need for more space, look at the 33FB. Pat
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07-25-2017, 10:46 AM
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#252
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Walnut Creek
, California
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 3,952
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dianacr
-- snip -- I'd call it perfect if only it had the tankless water heater....!
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That is an upgrade you can do. Make it your own and then tell us how you did it. Pat
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07-25-2017, 02:39 PM
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#253
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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I think your shower is very similar to our FC20, which works for us, although we are of more average height. If Pat is happy with it at 6' 4" that says a lot!
Peter
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07-25-2017, 07:56 PM
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#254
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Rivet Master
2018 23' International
Currently Looking...
SANTA BARBARA
, CA
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,214
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I have a question about the awning package option for the 23FB.
I'm pretty convinced that we should order factory installed awning package.
(oh, btw....we'd decided on the 20FB, but got cold feet about the single axle)
Husband thinks that, since there are only a few windows in the rear and side, that we won't need the awning package.
Comments?
Also, we want to order a 2018, and are negotiating with dealer. Trying to get 15% off MSRP. Fingers crossed.
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07-25-2017, 08:12 PM
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#255
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Rivet Master
2017 23' Flying Cloud
Parker
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,772
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Get the awning if you live or camp in any type of hot weather. It makes a huge difference keeping sun off the trailer. I was questioning it, and was talked into it by folks in this forum. It really does help.
Also. You may be able to get 20%. Call multiple dealers and get price from each.
I live in Colorado and a dealer in NJ had the best price, 20% off. I called the local dealer and told them the sale was theirs if they matched the price. They did. So I got the price I wanted at the local dealer.
Good luck!
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Thanks,
Troutboy
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07-25-2017, 08:54 PM
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#256
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Rivet Master
2018 23' International
Currently Looking...
SANTA BARBARA
, CA
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,214
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Thank you, Troutboy.
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07-25-2017, 09:49 PM
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#257
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 4,516
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Quote:
Originally Posted by weirdstuff
I have a question about the awning package option for the 23FB.
I'm pretty convinced that we should order factory installed awning package.
(oh, btw....we'd decided on the 20FB, but got cold feet about the single axle)
Husband thinks that, since there are only a few windows in the rear and side, that we won't need the awning package.
Comments?
Also, we want to order a 2018, and are negotiating with dealer. Trying to get 15% off MSRP. Fingers crossed.
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Get the awning package. Makes the trailer a better unit for heat for sure. Trust me I know! I added my awnings this season. Man what a difference in a good way
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07-25-2017, 09:59 PM
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#258
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Rivet Master
2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
, Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 6,222
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We specifically looked for a 2015 23D International Serenity with factory installed awning package (street side and rear), convection microwave and it came with an inverter which we threw away while doing a major solar panel, lithium battery and rewiring all outlets to be on the Magnum MSH-3012 inverter/charger so all outlets are hot when running on battery power.
Here in Arizona, the awning package enables the refrigerator compartment to be cooler and the A/C does a better job of keeping the coach cool.
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WBCCI Life Member 5123, AIR 70341, 4CU, WD9EMC
TV - 2012 Dodge 2500 4x4 Cummins HO, automatic, Centramatics, Kelderman level ride airbag suspension, bed shell
2014 31' Classic w/ twin beds, 50 amp service, 1000 watt solar system, Centramatics, Tuson TPMS, 12" disc brakes, 16" tires & wheels
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07-25-2017, 10:44 PM
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#259
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Rivet Master
2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
, Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 6,222
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The "AquaGo comfort" by Truma is an instant on propane fueled water heater with a slightly smaller form factor than the stock 6 gallon Dometic. We have this model in both our 2014 31' Classic and the 2015 23D. The heater can keep itself from freezing when boon docking with this model.
https://www.truma.com/us/en/water-systems/aquago.php
We made a custom access door by covering it with Airstream skin aluminum and special silver paint for the corlon plastic frame.
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WBCCI Life Member 5123, AIR 70341, 4CU, WD9EMC
TV - 2012 Dodge 2500 4x4 Cummins HO, automatic, Centramatics, Kelderman level ride airbag suspension, bed shell
2014 31' Classic w/ twin beds, 50 amp service, 1000 watt solar system, Centramatics, Tuson TPMS, 12" disc brakes, 16" tires & wheels
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07-26-2017, 04:35 AM
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#260
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2020 Globetrotter 25 FBT
2020 25' Globetrotter
Wildwood
, Missouri
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,606
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Just curious. We've been very happy with the water heater in our 23FB. I haven't read about the tankless, so I'm not that familiar with it. What's the advantage? To be honest, I've always liked the extra six gallons of fresh water when boondocking. We shut it off at night, and when we leave camp. Is it the propane usage? Noise?
Thx
(Also 6'5" and the shower works for me. The lovely wife definitely prefers this bath to our previous smaller bath we had in the Bambi.)
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2020 25GT FBT
2012 Toyota Tundra Dbl Cab, 5.7 4x4
Previous AS trailers: (04) 19’ Bambi, and (11) FC 23FB
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