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09-20-2018, 04:41 PM
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#2301
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Rivet Master
2014 23' International
Hurst
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,495
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Well done, Ronnie! Before I completely button up my aluminum spacer support mod, I'll do as you did and pull the cabinets down and install Jack Nuts.
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09-20-2018, 04:42 PM
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#2302
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 4,516
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Running my 15K unit on a Honda EU2000
So today was the first time I have gotten to try my new 15K A/C unit with MicroAir installed on a Honda EU2000 Generator.
I do not own a EU2000 but my next door neighbor does so I was able to borrow his for testing purposes.
I had to turn off my Progressive Industries Hardwired EMS-HW30C RV Surge & Electrical Protector, I guess due to no ground on the Generator.
After that to my delight everything ran as it should. I was able to cycle the A/C unit on and off and ran the unit for about 1hr with no problems. Generator voltage remained steady and Amp draw was within range. I was even able to run the fridge on electric vs propane with out over loading the generator.
Here’s a photo of my monitoring set up.
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09-20-2018, 04:50 PM
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#2303
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 4,516
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Rivnuts for the Dining table also
Rivnuts for everyone today. I also install the Rivnuts for the dinning table support.
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09-20-2018, 04:56 PM
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#2304
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2 Rivet Member
2016 23' Flying Cloud
Hillsboro
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 86
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What rivnut kit do you use?
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Originally Posted by GMFL
Rivnuts for everyone today. I also install the Rivnuts for the dinning table support.
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I do not have a Rivnut Kit and would love to buy a set for my tool kit that I carry with me on our travels. Care to share what make/model of this kit you speak of? Thanks in advance!
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09-20-2018, 05:07 PM
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#2305
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMFL
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I had to turn off my Progressive Industries Hardwired EMS-HW30C RV Surge & Electrical Protector, I guess due to no ground on the Generator.
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Yup. Exactly. Here's what's going on with this:
The portable generators have a floating (unbonded) neutral. In a normal shore power connection, the neutral and ground leads from the AS are tied together back at the home distribution panel or in the pedestal, which is properly code compliant. The neutral and ground is NEVER tied in the Airstream power panel, also per code.
An easy fix is an ordinary duplex (three prong household type) replacement plug with a 12-14 gauge jumper wire run between the safety earth U-ground prong (green screw) and the neutral narrow prong (silver screw). Plug this modified connector into a duplex outlet on your generator to tie neutral to ground. This properly ties neutral to ground at the power source like the EMS is expecting and requiring, and allows the EMS to protect you from generator faults.
If you are really being careful with this, you should connect a heavy wire from the generator ground lug to a eight foot driven ground rod or a proper metal water pipe ground for extra safety, per code. I don't know about you, but I don't carry eight foot copperweld ground rods in my spares kit in the trailer, nor do I normally carry a sledge hammer, and 'John Henry' to drive it in properly...
In a pinch I would use the car jumper cables or a heavy flat braid RF ground strap to tie the ground lug to a water pipe, because I play with radios, and RF grounds are important to me--especially when the outside of the trailer can be 'hot' with RF. Dogs and wives do NOT like getting RF burns from the door handle or the trailer steps, just sayin...
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'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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09-20-2018, 06:06 PM
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#2306
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 4,516
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EarStreaming
I do not have a Rivnut Kit and would love to buy a set for my tool kit that I carry with me on our travels. Care to share what make/model of this kit you speak of? Thanks in advance!
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Here’s the one I have. P/N 70-1000. I got it for 140.00 because I called them and asked for their best price.
http://www.rivetnutusa.com/rivnut-ki...-products.html
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09-20-2018, 07:13 PM
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#2307
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 4,516
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Rob,
What’s that beside your TV
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09-20-2018, 08:27 PM
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#2308
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Rivet Master
2017 23' Flying Cloud
Parker
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,772
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Wow, can’t leave you all alone for a second! Cool, stuff. I have to stop reading all of this, just when I think I’m caught up you invent a new project! Harden away!
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Troutboy
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09-20-2018, 11:02 PM
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#2309
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Rivet Master
2019 23' International
La Habra
, California
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,019
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Thanks for the information on the extra insulation in the refrigderator compartment and the water heater problem. Our 2019 International was assembled with the same design problems as in several year old models, unfortunately. I added insulation to the refrigerator compartment as described earlier in the thread. In addition, I have sprayed insulation under the hot water heater tank due to the terrible way airstream design decided to tie down or support the tank. I was hoping they would change the design but, it didn't happen.
Thanks in advance for the heads up on potential problems.
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2019 GMC Sierra Denali
2019 23CB International
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09-21-2018, 05:17 AM
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#2310
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 4,516
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Read this entire thread, there are plenty of them.
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09-21-2018, 07:41 AM
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#2311
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Rivet Master
2018 27' Tommy Bahama
Marana
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 815
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMFL
Rob,
What’s that beside your TV
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My guess - That looks like an Innova battery monitor, plugged into a 12v outlet.
INNOVA 3721 Battery and Charging System Monitor https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000EVWDU0..._ltpPBbEQB7Y09
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2018 27FBQ Tommy Bahama - "Indecision" w/Blue Ox SwayPro, Centramatics, Dual EasyStarts, Airstream Connected, Airtug Trailer Tug HD
2012 F250 6.7 Powerstroke King Ranch - "Earl", Centramatics, Viair On Board Air
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09-21-2018, 10:07 AM
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#2312
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Rivet Master
2014 23' International
Hurst
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,495
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMFL
Rob,
What’s that beside your TV
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That's the new Armagadd-O-Meyer "Zombie Tracker Mk. II" with optional upgraded ectoplasm detector.
Either that or the voltage meter thingie
That old photo was BC (before curtains). The factory gizmo that was there has been replaced with the Wingard signal strength meter.
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09-21-2018, 10:23 AM
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#2313
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 4,516
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Just wanted to make sure I was not missing a MOD.
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09-21-2018, 01:06 PM
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#2314
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 4,516
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Quote for clarification.
Quote:
Originally Posted by GMFL
So today was the first time I have gotten to try my new 15K A/C unit with MicroAir installed on a Honda EU2000 Generator.
I do not own a EU2000 but my next door neighbor does so I was able to borrow his for testing purposes.
I had to turn off my Progressive Industries Hardwired EMS-HW30C RV Surge & Electrical Protector, I guess due to no ground on the Generator.
After that to my delight everything ran as it should. I was able to cycle the A/C unit on and off and ran the unit for about 1hr with no problems. Generator voltage remained steady and Amp draw was within range. I was even able to run the fridge on electric vs propane with out over loading the generator.
Here’s a photo of my monitoring set up.
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This is a Honda EU2000 Generator even though it’s BLUE. I do not own one so for testing purposes (and to try before I buy) I borrowed it from my next door neighbor, Jason Christy. He Is. professional angler on the BASS and FLW tour so everything he owned is wrapped with his logos. That’s just what those guys do. So his Honda EU2000 is wrapped to match.
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09-21-2018, 03:13 PM
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#2315
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The Aluminum Tent 3
2014 23' Flying Cloud
Park City
, Utah
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 2,157
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Jeez the route for my next trip is getting insane. First to Parker CO so Rich can install a custom solar/lithium ion system. Then down to Hurst TX so Rob can beef up my bath cabinet, make me a custom sink cover, and a custom side counter extension, and storage behind the curbside dinette rear cushion. Then over to Alabama so Ronnie can install a custom 3" lift kit.
Anything major that I'm forgetting? (I can handle all the other little cool things).
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09-21-2018, 04:06 PM
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#2316
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 4,516
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Anytime your in the area. We will get it done.
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09-21-2018, 06:03 PM
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#2317
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 4,516
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Consider this. What “IF” I were to store someone’s airstream over the winter and did some of the MODS we’ve done to our units. It would have to be the right situation but I would love the project. The owner would be responsible for the cost of parts and minimal labor.
Just a thought. I’m sure you all think I’m crazy.
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09-21-2018, 06:52 PM
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#2318
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Rivet Master
2017 23' Flying Cloud
Parker
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,772
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMFL
Anytime your in the area. We will get it done.
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Same here come on down. Free covered storage while we work it!
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Troutboy
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09-22-2018, 01:24 AM
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#2319
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3 Rivet Member
Commercial Member
2016 23' International
Los Angeles
, California
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 190
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Genset Install
Just finished installing an ATS and Honda EU3000is on our 23.
Had the frame reinforced by a chassis fabricator.
So nice to have AC and full power while in the Mohave Desert during summer.
Photos and rendering of cad design attached.
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