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Old 12-12-2017, 09:31 AM   #785
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Well, I'm right in there between you two... I know of THREE low-point drains in our 2014 23D: the two under the corner bed (reached through the rear storage compartment) and a third one at the bottom of the fresh water metal pan. As far as I can tell on ours, dat's all folks!

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Good point Rob, the freshwater tank drain is a low point... (in more than just location)

Funny/annoying story about that during my first winterizing, related to using the tube into the pump to draw antifreeze in and not opening that petcock and emptying the FW tank....before I hooked the water line back to the pump..., but its too long and agonizing to tell again. Technically that winterizing education was another low point for me, so the total "was" four
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Been thinking about something like this. Steve, know you guys were wondering how to get more solar power, this guy added 340W on the back window!

What do you all think?

This looks very promising. Functions as the awning and extra space. I agree note sure about his wiring method, but with some cleaning up and a point of disconnect for removal and or service this should be fine to leave or take off for travel. I would think having adjustable poles would allow you to raise panel to even a more “forward” facing direction should you need to. If you were going to leave in place while on the road I would like to see when the panel is dropped into the lowest/travel position that the panel could be pinned in place to the same support are mounting location on the trailer. In other words have a tab on the back of the panel that lines up with the tabs on the trailer to secure it in place. (If you where good you could use and lined it up righ you could use the pole/brace mounting tabs from both ends of the pole and just store the adjustable pole for travel.
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Old 12-16-2017, 09:19 AM   #787
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This looks very promising. Functions as the awning and extra space. I agree note sure about his wiring method, but with some cleaning up and a point of disconnect for removal and or service this should be fine to leave or take off for travel. I would think having adjustable poles would allow you to raise panel to even a more “forward” facing direction should you need to. If you were going to leave in place while on the road I would like to see when the panel is dropped into the lowest/travel position that the panel could be pinned in place to the same support are mounting location on the trailer. In other words have a tab on the back of the panel that lines up with the tabs on the trailer to secure it in place. (If you where good you could use and lined it up righ you could use the pole/brace mounting tabs from both ends of the pole and just store the adjustable pole for travel.


It looked like to me they used those rubber “tee” tie down straps that hold the front window rock guards in place.

I imagine he has some rubber/padding in underside, and then one of those t straps on either side.

I just ordered a Zamp 200w suitcase without a controller for $339 tonuse as a portable panel system. I was looking at making my own, but couldn’t beat this price for two of the small zamp 100 watt panels. Comes with Case, stands, etc.

Would have cost me $500 plus the time to build it.

With the 500W on top, I think I have enough solar now 700W, but if not, I might consider this.
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I just ordered a Zamp 200w suitcase without a controller for $339 tonuse as a portable panel system. I was looking at making my own, but couldn’t beat this price for two of the small zamp 100 watt panels. Comes with Case, stands, etc.

Would have cost me $500 plus the time to build it.
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Mind sharing where you found this price? We carry a generator, and almost always try to find a shady campsite, but if I could put panels out and keep the batteries topped off. I know zero about solar. Would I need to buy a controller? Or, hook directly to batteries?
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Hey Jeff,

I found it on eBay. Someone told me about renogy selling refurbished panels. I sent renogy an email because I didn’t want the controller. I wired mine directly to my main solar controller.

They sent me a few links to their eBay store. They warranty them for a year. But it’s more than 50% off retail. These are also their eclipse series, which are smaller and more efficient.

Here is a link to a set with a controller, Also a Like New 200W suitcase with both the controller and wires:

https://www.renogy.com/renogy-200-wa...-box-like-new/

I was going to make my own suitcase, but the panels were $240 each (to match my amsolar small profile rooftops).

Good luck!
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Hey Jeff,

I found it on eBay.
Good luck!
Nice alternative. May be something I may do vs the plan to mount 2x180watt panels.

Looked at the specs and saw these folded measurements, which while not bad at all, I wonder where I would store it during travel or rainy days?

41.3 x 21.1 x 3.1 inches.
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I wonder where I would store it during travel or rainy days?

41.3 x 21.1 x 3.1 inches.
Perhaps under the bed...? but would require a cut out in the back into the rear storage. Maybe an upper "shelf" to slide it in on 4 inches tall, allowing storage (I use plastic bins under the bed for gear/clothing and also store a case of bottled of water there) under the shelf and on the floor in the rear storage area... ?
Need to take some measurements to determine if it is possible.
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Hey Jeff,

I found it on eBay. Someone told me about renogy selling refurbished panels. I sent renogy an email because I didn’t want the controller. I wired mine directly to my main solar controller.

They sent me a few links to their eBay store. They warranty them for a year. But it’s more than 50% off retail. These are also their eclipse series, which are smaller and more efficient.

Here is a link to a set with a controller, Also a Like New 200W suitcase with both the controller and wires:

https://www.renogy.com/renogy-200-wa...-box-like-new/

I was going to make my own suitcase, but the panels were $240 each (to match my amsolar small profile rooftops).

Good luck!
Thank you. Still 19 months to retirement. We'll finally have time really travel.
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Some may think I’m crazy but I carry two of those 330 watt Panasonic HIT panels in the bed of my truck. Each panel weighs 40 lbs and essentially replaces my generator and gasoline weight wise.

Regarding making your own suitcase, my first was homemade. You can buy 36 cell 100 watt panels easily for $115-$130 each. Then you just have to decide what type of controller you want. With a set of hinges to connect them, solar wire and battery clamps you have a homemade suitcase. It seems to me much cheaper than the prefab “suitcases”.
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I tried to search this thread for ideas, but without time to read all 57 pages, I have not found what I’m looking for.....

I need ideas for where to put paper towel roll. Sitting the roll on counter behind kitchen sink, it’s always in the way or getting wet!

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We lay ours flat behind the cook top, between the walls and cooktop cover, when not cooking and on the table standing on end if the cooktop is in use. Not perfect but we are simple people
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We lay ours flat behind the cook top, between the walls and cooktop cover, when not cooking and on the table standing on end if the cooktop is in use. Not perfect but we are simple people
Yep, we take the simple approach, too. When not in use, our roll(s) are thrown in the storage cabinet over the stove/sink. When in use, they are, well... wherever we're usin' them!

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I tried to search this thread for ideas, but without time to read all 57 pages, I have not found what I’m looking for.....

I need ideas for where to put paper towel roll. Sitting the roll on counter behind kitchen sink, it’s always in the way or getting wet!

Thx!
I bought a nice anti-unrolling stainless one at BB&B, and installed it above the sink, perpendicular to the wall, attached to the underside of the upper cabinet. I used command strips to attach, has held steady all year. Easy to reach while cooking and using sink, and conveniently out of the way. And that's on my 23FB which has even more counter space than the 23D, but it was still in the way before I found a place to put it!
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