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Old 11-30-2018, 07:57 AM   #15
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In the 70s theoretically there were 3 trim lines with increasing bells and whistles: standard, Land Yacht and International. Given that I never saw a "standard" trailer, never saw a Tradewind that has not a Land Yacht and never saw a Sovereign that was not an International.
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Old 11-30-2018, 08:32 AM   #16
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Airstream cannot keep up with current demand. Why would they offer a lower price product?
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A lower price with less “stuff” and less complexity could mean more profit per unit.

The simpler ones it seems would move down the line more quickly.
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Old 11-30-2018, 08:50 AM   #17
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I see both sides of this equation. Both are valid standpoints.

IMO, the world is moving to gadget based everything, you either get on the train or you close down shop.....it really is that simple (from my lens).

There is also the other aspect that if your are technically and mechanically disadvantaged, then having lots of things that needs to eventually be "fixed" can be a daunting endeavor as well as costly.

As an electrical engineer for decades now, I'm squarely in the camp of "give me the gadgets".....only because I know I can deal with them when the time comes.

Everyone's needs are different and YMMV. Looking at the time it takes just to get in the queue to get one built, and the fact that there are hardly any used units (at least around these parts) says that bare bones trailers are mostly likely a long way off unless there is another recession or things just fall off a cliff.

This again, is only my opinion.

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Old 11-30-2018, 08:55 AM   #18
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In the 70s theoretically there were 3 trim lines with increasing bells and whistles: standard, Land Yacht and International. Given that I never saw a "standard" trailer, never saw a Tradewind that has not a Land Yacht and never saw a Sovereign that was not an International.


Mine was placarded a Sovereign Land Yacht International.

By today’s standards it was beyond simple.
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Old 11-30-2018, 09:02 AM   #19
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Sales people like to sell features, sales people like bells and whistles, it would take some effort to have salespeople sell simplicity as a feature, but I think there is a sizable segment of the population that would like “simple is a feature”.
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Old 11-30-2018, 09:44 AM   #20
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What would you remove from a Sport or Flying Cloud to get to the level of simplicity you are talking about?
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Old 11-30-2018, 10:33 AM   #21
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Old 11-30-2018, 12:04 PM   #22
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thats exactly why I love my 2004! Simple, basics all work. feel badly for folks with all the gadgets that don't work. Maybe if I full-timed, I'd feel differently. but this is still luxury from a tent!
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What would you remove from a Sport or Flying Cloud to get to the level of simplicity you are talking about?
I would like to remove my Dometic CCC2 thermostat system and replace it with manual, mechanical thermostats. There’s no reason to have a 2 zoned HVAC system in a 30’ trailer and/or programable thermostats. Way to complex and the system never works right. I want a system I can fix while on the road.
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I would like to remove my Dometic CCC2 thermostat system and replace it with manual, mechanical thermostats. There’s no reason to have a 2 zoned HVAC system in a 30’ trailer and/or programable thermostats. Way to complex and the system never works right. I want a system I can fix while on the road.


Bingo! That’s exactly the kind of thing I’m talking about.

I don’t know how many threads I’ve seen about rebooting thermostats. That just seems crazy to me.
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thats exactly why I love my 2004! Simple, basics all work. feel badly for folks with all the gadgets that don't work. Maybe if I full-timed, I'd feel differently. but this is still luxury from a tent!
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Has wiring harness for everything. Installed radio then cut holes in walls to find speaker wires taped to inside of walls. Had to buy service manual and phone call to factory to get exact location of where to find them. Tanks have the moniters and are hooked up and wires come out inside of upper cabinet but no control panel was ever installed.
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Old 11-30-2018, 05:15 PM   #27
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I deleted the stereo when I remodeled our Excella, made new panels where speakers holes were. Iphone with a blutooth speaker sounds better and can move it werever you want.
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