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Old 01-12-2005, 07:58 PM   #15
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Cosmotini: neither the FB or the Safari Special have a rear wrap window. The Safari Special got CCD-type aluminum on the interior but in terms of layout it appears to be a straight Safari 25 SS.
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Old 01-12-2005, 08:09 PM   #16
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I was browsing around a couple of dealer sites last night and came across two models that I have never heard of before:

Can-AM Rv in Ontario has a 25' AC/CD CCD on order. The tag line says the best of both worlds, half Safari half CCD.

Colony RV in NJ has a 25 FB on order, no further information.

How come Airstream.com doesn't keep up to date with these new models?
The Model that was described is in stock at the dealership now.
25FB Photos and Floor Plan
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Old 01-12-2005, 08:29 PM   #17
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I have always liked the Argosy rear door models, and wished that they still made them. I like the rear bath and I think a separate front bedroom
would be nice when some people are awake and some are sleeping.
The side dinette would turn into a bed for kids.
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Old 01-12-2005, 09:40 PM   #18
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Thanks for the postings, I was all turned around. Interesting coach.
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Old 01-12-2005, 09:48 PM   #19
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Looked more closely....very small closet, says it has the Safari Upgrade Pkg which is suppose to have the electric hitch jack, but the one in the pic has a manual. It does have the cast rear tail lights which is part of the package. Also thinking that the rear window is gonna need an awning
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Old 01-12-2005, 10:40 PM   #20
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I really like the rear entrance door & it's good to see them doing something different. Like previous comments, usually the best views are thru the back windows. I do think that the front bed could be an issuse with me at camp sites. Noise & light pollution might be more intrusive than I like. I hope they have one at the Travel show in MPLS in Feb, as I'd love to go thru one. I can hear the other one already saying "Oh, not again !!! While for most it's probably NOT a big issuse, but IMHO AS could really add class to a unit, if they would just GET RID of those stupid ceiling lights & go with something more AS.
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Old 01-12-2005, 11:11 PM   #21
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Maybe the AS management will read this and find out that I think the orange
cabinet doors are not my cup of tea.
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Old 01-13-2005, 12:23 AM   #22
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We saw the "half CCD" Airstream you are talking about at the RV Industry Association show in Louisville KY last December.

It is called a "Safari Special" and it is basically a regular Safari with CCD aluminum interior walls. It's a nice cross between the very urbane, (some would say "cold") CCD interior and the more traditional Safari fabrics and cabinetry. It is very cool! I would buy one in a heartbeat if I were looking today.

I have also been told that George M Sutton RV has ordered some of these. See picture. Sorry it's so dark -- the walls really are aluminum although they don't look it in this picture.

We live only 40 miles from George M. Sutton RV dealership.....I'll make a point to check 'em out and take some more pics when they arrive (since we are still interested in upgrading to a 25-28' CCD). We still like the aluminum inside...and are hanging some small quilts she's made on the walls to add to the ambiance. My wife commented that when we're on the road and you really have to go (she is sold on traveling with our own potty)......you would have to walk back further to get to the rear curbside door .....so you can't please everyone!!

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Tell her to make you stop and pull over before she needs to go that bad

I think most women can agree that having your own private bathroom being towed behind you is one of the number one pluses of RVing!
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Old 01-13-2005, 02:13 AM   #24
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Tell her to make you stop and pull over before she needs to go that bad

I think most women can agree that having your own private bathroom being towed behind you is one of the number one pluses of RVing!

I Agree!!
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Old 01-13-2005, 07:14 PM   #25
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It'd be nice if Airstream simply dropped those lame Safari windows and gave them either the windows that the Classic has or the CCD since they are dimentionally very similar in size (but different framing from what I've been told), even if it were at additional cost. It'd be worth it IMHO.
The reason the Safari has different windows is two fold: 1) weight, the Classic style windows weigh alot more; 2) cost, the Safari is Airstream's entry level model. In addition to the windows, cost and weight are kept down with the cabinet construction and other items.
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You know, I'd almost buy that answer, except for the simple fact that all the coaches are darn near identical in the early stages of construction basically. My request was for the CCD windows or the Classic windows. The CCDs just slightly different than the Classics. Moreover, the 25' CCD is darn near exactly the same weight as the standard 25' Safari C, so the question really doesn't appear to be weight. Which still begs the question....if Airstream is willing to build an in between model, why not add the windows as an upcharge. Not the full price difference of the CCD, but not as inexpensive as the standard Safari line. There are a bunch of us folks that like the CCD, but don't like the interior furnishings. It's kind of a best of both worlds type thing. I think the biggest issue with doing it is how to accomidate it on the line. As it is now I can see how confused someone might be the way the line works at assembly....adding more variables only increases quality concerns, particularly during high volume times....but that's just a guess.
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Old 01-13-2005, 08:54 PM   #27
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Front bedroom

My previous A/S was a 22' International AS with front bedroom and wraparound front windows. I never found that the front bedroom was undesirable in any way; there were no more problems with headlights or noise than my current rear bedroom.

I found the front bed with wraparound windows was a wonderful place to read while watching the bworld go by.
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The reason the Safari has different windows is two fold: 1) weight, the Classic style windows weigh alot more; 2) cost, the Safari is Airstream's entry level model. In addition to the windows, cost and weight are kept down with the cabinet construction and other items.
This was the explanation that more than one Airstream dealer has told me for the difference in the windows. I haven't compaired the weight charts and the ammenities of the CCD vs. the Safari.

My guess is that the cost is probably more the issue than the weight. However, I don't know how much difference in cost there could be since there aren't that many windows around the perimeter. I would think the wrap around window would be the big ticket item.
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