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Old 07-30-2003, 01:43 PM   #1
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New Ccd's: 19' & 25'

We've been searching for more info on these 2 new models. Nothing on the AS website yet.

In these forums we found quite a bit on the 25' but almost nothing on the 19'.

Can anyone confirm for sure that it has the same floorplan of the 19' Bambi but with CCD interiors?

What colours is it available? Specs?
Pricing? $37,793?

Anyone out there has it?

Which dealers have them? any on the east coast?

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Old 07-30-2003, 04:06 PM   #2
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I heard nothing but rumor. If what I heard was correct though, the 16' CCD is called the CCD/Bambi?!

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Old 07-30-2003, 05:53 PM   #3
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Bambi = what length?

Prior to the reintroduction of the Bambi back in '99, the Bambi branding was the 16' model. Of course this was in the days where EVERY A/S model had a unique name (one of Wally's edicts). The 19' model was the Globe Trotter in those days. It came in both a single or tandem axle version.

I have seen a 2004 price list from A/S that shows ONLY a 16' CCD Bambi. The 19' versions are labeled Safari (ie std trim or CCD). The very early 2002 production 19' A/S carried the Safari badging, but then A/S had a change of heart and send new lettering to all the dealers with those Safari-badged 19 footers and had then change them to say Bambi. I think the logic was that Bambi was going to be the single axle product line while Safari was the tandem axle of the entry level trim. Maybe A/S is returning the Bambi branding to the 16'...who knows we may see the return of the classic naming.

Airstream has messed with the branding of the product line so much over the last 20 years, that about the only brand name they have left untouched is the Airstream name.

BTW, on another forum, it was posted by some who claimed to have seen the 19CCD that is was identical in layout to the current 19' but with the exposed aluminum interior, the black laminate cabinets, the backlit upper cabinets and the CCD fabric/color schemes. Given that the 25' CCD indeed turned out to be the same makeover of the 25 Safari/Classic, this would make sense. To see pics of the 25CCD goto
http://www.colonialairstream.com/newinventory/7161.html
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Old 07-31-2003, 09:05 AM   #4
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Re: Bambi = what length?

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I have seen a 2004 price list from A/S that shows ONLY a 16' CCD Bambi.

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Where did you see the price list? I have asked A/S to send me one, but don't yet have it. Did the one you've seen have options as well?

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Old 07-31-2003, 09:08 AM   #5
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Dave,
Here is the price list that was posted over on the Airstreamlist yahoo site. The person posting it had received the information directly from A/S. Unfortunately, the option pricing was not included.

2004 List prices

19' Safari Bambi - $33,203.
25' Safari - $38,603.
25' Safari 6-sleeper - $39,143.
28' Safari Non-Slide - $45,353.
28' Safari Slide-Out - $51,293.
16' International CCD Bambi - $32,393.
19' International CCD Bambi - $37,793.
22' International CCD - $40,493.
25' International CCD 6-sleeper - $47,243.
28' International CCD - $52,643.
25' Classic - $53,753.
28' Classic - $57,953.
30' Classic - $62,433.
30' Classic Slide-Out - $69,713.
31' Classic - $62,153.
34' Classic - $71,113.
34' Classic Slide-Out Dinette - $79,513.
34' Classic Slide-Out Lounge - $82,313.
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Old 07-31-2003, 09:43 AM   #7
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Since my lust for this 19' Bambi CCD knows no bounds, I shall share with you what I have heard from a few AS dealers:

List price close to $38.000.

Floor plan will be indentical to Bambi 19' non-CCD.
(One person thought that the bath might be a wet-type bath as in the larger CCD's, but they can't confirm this.

Options available as of now:

Interior color choices: Blue streak, Lemon Grass, and Hazard Orange.

CD changer, electric hitch, spare tire and mount, 3 piece stone guard, and stainless wrap protectors.

It is uncertain that an option of a black flush, fantastic fan, aquajet pump will be listed.

It was concluded that AS will do just about any reasonable option....for the right amount of money!

Supposedly in the next few weeks, AS will have available new literature...uncertain whether this means a whole new catalog or what.
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Old 07-31-2003, 09:46 AM   #8
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19" Bambi CCD"

I started this thread mainly because a very helpful and friendly member of this forum, who has just recently purchased the 25' CCD, has posted a 2004 price list of the Lithia Springs, GA AS dealer which indicates the 19' as:

19' International CCD Bambi - $37,793.

This confused me and sent me on a wild chase. I called just about all the AS dealers on the East coast and none of them had even heard of it...then again most of them had no clue the 25' CCD was out too.

Some argued it would only be released in April 2004, without believing me when I told them that someone I knew about had already bought one and enjoyed his maiden trip with it, a couple of weekends ago!

I'd really love to see some pics of this new 19' International CCD.

Anyone has any or has seen it at his local dealer?

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Old 07-31-2003, 09:57 AM   #9
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AS is in production with the 19' CCD now. Delivery to the dealers is supposed to be either the first or last part of September, depending on who you talk with. I would guess that these trailers will be sold quickly...but thats OK. Make a few and get the kinks worked out, if any.

I'm gonna have to pan-handle big time to get one of these...although I'm still open to beautiful old <22'!

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Old 07-31-2003, 10:22 AM   #10
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Hi there!

I noticed you're from the east coast too and I was curious to know which dealer gave you that info since all the ones I spoke to navigated in darkness.

Also, we just bought the 22' but have had concerns with it ever since the 19' and 25' were released. Mainly because they both feature a full bth with a window while ours has a wet bath and no window.

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Old 07-31-2003, 10:34 AM   #11
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Kimili

My sources: Airstream pre-sales, R&R RV in Gilman, Ill., Woodland Travel Center in Grand Rapids, MI., et al.

Actualy I'm in Chicago...but that's less than a thousand miles from the east coast.

Jonathan

P.S. Enjoyed your website...if you need a photographer in the Chicago area, I know one...

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AS info.

Spoke with Sales dept. at AS.

Confirmed that they released to their Regional Managers a price list for the new CCD line including the 19' and 25' on June 13, 2003.

First shipments of 25' end of June and yes the 19' is due this September. She couldn't give me any info on the floorplans or available colours.

Seemed to believe it would be as we thought identical to the existing 19' Bambi but with CCD interiors. We'll see.

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This to us confirms that our dealer knew and avoided telling us on purpose so that he could sell off his 2003 stock!
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2004 List prices

19' Safari Bambi - $33,203.
25' Safari - $38,603.
25' Safari 6-sleeper - $39,143.
28' Safari Non-Slide - $45,353.
28' Safari Slide-Out - $51,293.
16' International CCD Bambi - $32,393.
19' International CCD Bambi - $37,793.
22' International CCD - $40,493.
25' International CCD 6-sleeper - $47,243.
28' International CCD - $52,643.
25' Classic - $53,753.
28' Classic - $57,953.
30' Classic - $62,433.
30' Classic Slide-Out - $69,713.
31' Classic - $62,153.
34' Classic - $71,113.
34' Classic Slide-Out Dinette - $79,513.
34' Classic Slide-Out Lounge - $82,313.

Give me a minute to let my jaw catch up with me.

OUCH!!
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Old 07-31-2003, 03:09 PM   #14
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Ouch indeed

I checked the original window sticker on my '02 and the list before options was just over $28K, with options just a few shy of $33, now it looks as if the base has risen over $5K in just 2 years and it does not seem that you are getting anything additional. The base equipment is the same as in past years. I based this on both the description the dealer supplied and the fact that the pics clearly showed no power front jack, no spare tire, no corian, etc. The unit shows that as promised, carpeting is history and now the Bambi has the same vinyl flooring as the CCDs. The appliances are now stainless steel and in the kitchen area, the back wall has been left the polished aluminum and an aluminum blind now covers the galley window. It looks like the sink is also stainless (cutting board was over the sink so only the edges showed). No longer are the drapes wrap around but only cover the window (a downgrade in my opinion). Overall though, the '04 19' Bambi interior is an improvement over previous years. The exterior looks the same other than the Bambi badging is an oval medallion rather than lettering and the rear taillamps are wrap around like those used in the 702 vintage units and the clearance lights are the vintage looking teardrop design.
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