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Old 09-28-2016, 06:03 PM   #1
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Need help, 23' or 25' ?

hey! I am looking for changing my 5wheel for a brand new airstream. I am wondering if i should choose a 25fb or a 23fb?? We are a couple with 2 teens but the teens come rarely with us - Also i am a little bit worried about the insulation vs hot summer. Do you thing new models are better related to insulation ? Thank for your help
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Old 09-28-2016, 06:52 PM   #2
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Not to be flippant, but there are thousands of threads on this site that go through the differences of all Airstreams the good the bad the ugly. What you're asking could be answered by saying "B." Very very subjective. Please look around a little. Or google Airstream differences, then come back and ask more precise questions.


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Old 09-28-2016, 07:05 PM   #3
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Welcome, go with the largest you can comfortable afford and the appropriate tow vehicle to go with it.
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Old 09-28-2016, 07:42 PM   #4
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You need to go see the trailers. I agree, the larger the better so I would suggest a 25. As far as insulation goes, I don't think the newer models are any better but.......the AC on the 2015 and above are now ducted which means they are quieter and more efficient. If you are worried about the cold, the furnaces in these things work pretty well.
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Welcome. I agree with AWCHIEF, you're probably going to want the largest one you can comfortably afford. An extra couple of feet makes a huge difference. Go hang out in a few models at the dealer for a while and you're likely to answer your own question.

Where are you planning on camping? If it's so hot the AC can't keep up, then it's too hot to go outside. At that point, why are you even camping? I can sit around and watch TV at home. Go somewhere cooler.
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Old 09-29-2016, 02:02 AM   #6
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hey! I am looking for changing my 5wheel for a brand new airstream. I am wondering if i should choose a 25fb or a 23fb?? We are a couple with 2 teens but the teens come rarely with us - Also i am a little bit worried about the insulation vs hot summer. Do you thing new models are better related to insulation ? Thank for your help

Hey and welcome! 😀

There's no simple answer to your question because there are so many factors to consider. Some questions that might help zero in on a good choice for you include:

Why do you want to get rid of the 5th wheeler?

What kind of camping do you do?

How often are you able to camp and for what duration?

If close to "full timing" are you able to (and do you want to) "chase 72 degrees Fahrenheit"?

You're right to be worried about hot temps (and extreme cold temps) as the aluminum is a good conductor of heat and cold - insulation is ok, but thin and in really hot conditions, the AC is usually only good for reducing temps about 20deg.F from ambient.

Sounds like it would mostly be 2 of you but how often would you want to camp with kids or other guests? Even a 25 could get crowded for long trips with 4, but perhaps carrying a small tent with sleeping bags can cure that challenge.

So - there are a lot of factors to make your decision. As others recommend, you should go to a dealer and hand out in several models, think about your camping lifestyle and see which one speaks to you. Most suggest going with the largest you're able to afford since many start small and then want to add a couple more feet once they get going...

Good luck!
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We are new to AS and to camping. We were set on the 23 FB from online research. We just returned from the Hershey RV Show where we walked through both the 23 FB and the 25 FB. We also have two kids in college who will on occasion travel with us (but as time goes on probably rarely). It will mostly be the two of us. The 25 FB seemed to us much more useful, comfortable and larger. I know it is only 2 feet and a few inches wider but there is a huge difference. There really is a living area as opposed to simply a dinette and many other differences. As stated above you really must walk through them.

So we have focused on the 25 FB either Int'l Signature or Flying Cloud. We intend to use our 2007 F-150 as a TV which is sufficient for both of them once I add a brake controller.
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Well, if you are looking at on-line photos there is not much difference, however when you compare side by side on the lot, the 25FB is much roomier, a little wider and a little longer means a lot more comfort, especially after a few days on the road. We tried too small and it was a big mistake.
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If you thought the 25 was roomier, wait till you spend some time on the 30'...
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If you thought the 25 was roomier, wait till you spend some time on the 30'...
Yep. We were looking at a 30 at the weekend... the extra living space is so nice... But the increase in length is significant to me..
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Welcome to the forum, and please forgive the early rudeness.

As others have already suggested, you should spend quality time with 4 adults "in" each model under consideration. 25' is bare minimum for your needs IMO.

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Yep. We were looking at a 30 at the weekend... the extra living space is so nice... But the increase in length is significant to me..
Well, something to consider. The F150 can tow a 30' Flying Cloud with some minimal weight management to stay within specs. And once you're towing, the extra 5 feet won't make much of a difference. But while staying in it, the difference will be huge, especially coming from a 5th wheeler.
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The 25 is more closely related to the larger models without the length, larger wheels, brakes, liquid storage and width. Most notably is a shorter kitchen and bedroom. Be aware the queen bed sits sideways, no problem for us but some have difficulty; the twin beds are a good option.

The 25 is available in front or rear bed configurations, people swear by the one they have until they get the other. It's a matter of views vs practicality for the most part. The 27 and 28 are also front or rear bed models and are virtually the same length (1 inch difference) and both offer a fore/aft queen bed. The 25 - 31 all push the same amount of frontal air, the towing difference is noticed up and down grades. Longer Airstreams tend to be more stable, the axles are farther back. Maneuverability has more to do with tow vehicle wheelbase than trailer length.

We sometimes wish our Airstream was longer when camping, and shorter when parking or fueling the truck. The 25 is a pretty good compromise for living and travel ease. It tows very well behind a half-ton truck or larger SUV which also are comfortable daily drivers.
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Well, something to consider. The F150 can tow a 30' Flying Cloud with some minimal weight management to stay within specs. And once you're towing, the extra 5 feet won't make much of a difference. But while staying in it, the difference will be huge, especially coming from a 5th wheeler.
Towing is not the problem, it is parking at the house and some of the campgrounds we currently like going to..

Back on topic:

The bed in a 23 is suboptimal, that corner layout is not a lot of fun.. the extra width of the 25 was the difference maker to me
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