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Old 11-19-2014, 09:30 PM   #15
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If you mount the bed sideways across the coach like Aluminuminum did, you may even be able to fit a queen and still have enough room to comfortably get in the door and move about. You also get to climb over each other to get up at night, which is a good thing, (at least for as long as it remains a good thing.) “




Yes, and yes, I wholly agree... In the song-lyrics of Taj Mahal, “Throw your big leg over me mama I might not feel this good again”







After much research and mattress store consultations, we bought off eBay a Serta brand California King sleeping/memory foam laminate composite which we cut to size with a bread knife. Sewed up a zippered inner lining and an upholstery grade zippered outer cover. The two covers can slide against each other minimizing wrinkles and facilitate laundering. Then all of the seasonal bedding goes on, or not. With a variety of pillows and bolsters, it's a great lounge area for the two of us. 4” total thickness is firm enough for seating and soft enough for sleeping, and lightweight.


The water tank and pump nests in shower-pan vinyl flashed up the walls to contain any catastrophic mishap. The dinette replacing the side gaucho provides seating or workspace with feet under the table or facing the aisle.


We removed the original interior and re-sawed every bit of the original ash solid and plywood into the “new” interior and site-built cabinets. Added two sheets of better than “Baltic” grade 1/2” birch plywood, one sheet counter-top specific particle board, some Formica, fluted aluminum edge band, and some cut-offs from my scrap bin. The engineered, glued and pin-nailed, Canadian Maple kitchen area floor spans from wheelhouse to wheelhouse giving plenty of toe kick. The 22” x 25” corner drain sink allows out of sight containment of the under plumbing, and offers a good sized flat wet-work space.
We employed removable and washable Ikea sliding tubs instead of drawers. For example, the red tub contains everything to cook outdoors. Carry it out quietly in the morning and set up contents at picnic table, awaken the sleeping beauty with her coffee... The seven removable drawer/tubs with infinite extension, are working really well. The secret fixed drawer, above “electro del centro” is reachable without stepping inside.


We putzed around, enjoying the re-build puzzle for a couple years. The illusion and actuality of more space was always in focus. Ami is Japanese and very efficient in small spaces. I have a 50 year background in no-trace ultralight backpacking. Our trailer fits us like an Armani suit. It has no standard measures of the building trade.


We used my CAD program to design it. Cardboard Aided Design is the only way to go. You gotta be in there feeling it, not seated at a computer screen. A 30” aisle may look great on screen, but in actuality you find that Godzilla can tuck in her tail and pirouette in 27”. 3” is a lot of space in a little trailer. I'm 6' and she's 5' 2”. If you want to know how difficult it is for a 5' 2” person to safely cut carrots on a 36” high counter-top, You'll discover the the danger by adding 10” to the industry standard 36” height. It's very tiring and cumbersome to operate your arms, shoulders and elbows at a 46” work height. All our work and seating surfaces are a couple to a few inches lower than builder specs. She is delighted, and it doesn't inconvenience me at all. After we had finalized our cardboard and masking tape spatial findings, I made a rough sketch on graph paper to record it..


The 1964 “door in door” GTs were shorter in the bow and didn't have the side-lite forward of door.


The “20 foot” Globe Trotter is actually 20' 11” long. Inside, from the front glass window to the rear glass window is 17 feet.


If you like the Globe trotter's size, '67 & '68 have my vote because of the bath. Same for the Safari. If you can tow the additional 500 pounds, the Safari has two more foot-lengths.
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Old 11-20-2014, 05:40 AM   #16
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Aluminuminum,

Beautiful cabinetry work and I can readily align with your CAD program. I may employ your program for our next project (unless I have to sign some extensive license agreement...)

Thanks for sharing,

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Old 11-20-2014, 06:04 AM   #17
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Absolutely stunning work!!! Beautiful craftsmanship!!!!


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Old 11-20-2014, 10:20 AM   #18
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Hey BambiTex

A lot of good suggestions so far. Will offer another that is a little outside the box; Argosy Minuet 6.0 - abouot 19 feet. They are very light weight and the only "all aluminum" A/S trailer, floor is aluminum composit instead of wood. They will typically have a dinnet or gaucho under the front pano windows that can be left as a bed with a second gaucho along the side. Mine has the dinnet that makes a double bed, - kind of small for two but it works. Let me know if you would like to see one, I'm in Katy. Can't beat the weight and large windows in a small trailer. Granted, it isn't silver and not sure what qualifies as "vintage" but it is 37 years old and going strong! Good luck.
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Old 12-19-2014, 09:08 AM   #19
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Looks like I may have a buyer for the Bambi so I am stepping up my search. Current leading candidates are a 66 Safari and a 58 Flying Cloud. Obviously price and condition are variables but are there opinions on the relative merits of these two models?
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Old 12-22-2014, 10:49 PM   #20
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Like you say, depends on condition. In the end, the cost of either '58 or '66 could be the same. If you want to camp, I'd pay the premium for good condition up front rather than fussing with years of deep restoration issues.


Most vintage snobs have a favorite, but their reasoning may not parallel yours. I'm thoroughly enamored with my '68, but as my vintage snobbery deepens, I could be easily dissuaded by a '54 Whale Tail or a '47 Curtis... Well, that's “My” fantasy... The Boss will never let go of “Her” '68GT.


Happy Hunting...
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Old 12-23-2014, 08:21 AM   #21
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Old 12-23-2014, 05:02 PM   #22
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I agree with aluminuminum's assessment of the mid sixties Airstreams. I have a 66 Trade Wind 24 which is not in your size range. However, I would favor the Safari over the 58 Flying Cloud as the axle is better, the frame is stronger, the amenities were better such as the univolt system, etc. Find one with a good frame and good exterior skins and all the window parts. That would make a good base for your restoration.

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PS By the way I thoroughly enjoyed aluminuminum synopsis and photos of his 68 GT restoration. Fun
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Ok, Bambi is sold so I am serious about getting another AS before the $$ evaporate. Current front runners are both Safari "Land Yachts", one is a 68 and the other is a 69. Despite what I read above, both appear to have the same bath arrangement. 69 has the "new" body style with corner wrap windows, and may be a few inches longer. Both have a curbside gaucho and either a gaucho or dinette up front. My plan for either would be to convert the forward space into a dedicated bed and the curbside gaucho into a dinette.
What other significant differences are there between the two model years?
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