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Old 07-02-2007, 11:30 AM   #449
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TV Antenna bracket came off

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Was doing wash and wax job this weekend and noticed the bracket the Antenna sits on was a 'little' loose. It was bonded on with the white sealant Airstream had smeared around the vent openings. It did not appear to bond well with the bracket -- Bracket is bare aluminum and it was stuck onto the painted top. I could not easily remove the sealant, so I moved the bracket over a little bit and used silkaflex.

It was just hanging by a thread.

You might want to check yours, next time you are up on a ladder.

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Old 07-02-2007, 11:49 AM   #450
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Ah, that finally happened to you too?

The last post caught my attention. I'd almost forgotten about the quality tracking thread on the 04's.

My antenna bracket separated from the roof within the first 6 months of ownership. Like yours, mine had the white sealing gunk, and very little of it. While washing the roof one weekend my bracket was blown off by the stream of water from the hose while rinsing. And no, I didn't have a high pressure washer, just a standard hose. Wow!

I too resealed it. Very surprising at how poorly it was affixed to my Airstream.

Overall I've been happy with the quality of my 04'. I've had a few issues that have been minor.

Due to vibration the pilot pipe in my stove severed! That was the worst.

Many of the PLASTIC brackets used to hold my counter and closets in place have shattered. Very cheap light plastic, and they all cracked. Had to redo brackets myself in one closet, my entire kitchen counter area. Also, my stove was not screwed into the counter at the time of purchase. That was addressed by my dealer. The stove slid part way out on my 3rd trip with the trailer. Whoops!

Everything else has been pretty good!
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Old 07-02-2007, 02:47 PM   #451
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Well, mine had probably a 3/8 inch thick glob about 2 inches wide and 12 inches long -- looked like at least half a tube smeared under there. Like I said, it was stuck real well to the painted top, and none of it stuck and remained on the bracket. I tried prying it up so the bracket could go back where Airstream had it...and saw it would take way too much elbow grease.

Yours only had a little bit, mine had way too much,and they both failed -- I suspect it just did not bond to the bare aluminum.

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Any other year have these issues?

I wonder if any other "recent" Airstreams have had similar issues. It was too funny the day I was washing the roof. I turned the hose toward the front of the trailer from the rear (just scooting water off the roof) and my little antenna bracket went swooshing off the roof along with the water. Whoops!
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Old 07-02-2007, 09:22 PM   #453
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Well we are a little over 3 1/2 years since delivery. The problems were:

1. Water pump had bad check valve which caused fresh water tank to fill while we were connected to city water. Replaced pump.

2. Shower leak around the drip frame (took 2 visits to stop).

3. Front pocket door was scratched by screw used to secure refrigerator. Door replaced screw fixed.

4. Kitchen drawers won't stay closed on less than smooth roads (never could fix this).

5. Skylight over the center bath leaked (removed and resealed).

6. Dirty curtains in slide out area (curtains replaced).

7. Cord broken on window shade (dealer restrung).

8. Skylight over the front of the trailer leaked (crack in skylight. replaced)

9. Mirror behind dinette came loose (was secured by double stick tape. Replaced tape).

10. Small spot of clear coat popped near top of side panel at center of trailer. Spot is half the size of a dime. (Noted to dealer under warranty). I covered with automotive clear coat. No further deterioration.

11. Air conditioner shroud started cracking at the screw holes just after Airstream warranty ended.

All items addressed under warranty except items 8 and 9 which were on my own nickel and occurred after warranty was up. On #10 the fix had more risk than me addressing the problem. Noted in dealers file in case there was a further spread. Item #11 occurred after the Airstream warranty ended. Duo-Therm provides a 3 year warranty with the 3rd year being parts only. In contacting Duo-Therm, they noted that the 3rd year parts warranty does not cover the shroud. Interestingly enought they noted that shrouds are only covered for 6 months, although Airstream would have backed this item for the first two years. Also noted that the shroud exclusion wasn't listed in any of my warranty documentation.
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Old 07-02-2007, 11:26 PM   #454
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Jack -- have not been around the forums much lately-- went to the 2004 Moraine View rally and met you...we have two daughters and the animated flamigos...



Airstream left plastic over the carpet under the queen bed, under the L-couch, and in the back hatch. Eventually, moisture got trapped in there and started to cause a moldy smell. We took it out and the problem went away...dunno if your classic had the stuff in the hatch areas.

The batteries are starting to give out -- one of them uses a lot more water than the other, and I suspect it has been marginal since new. As I never camp without hookups, thinking of replacing the pair of 24's with one larger one just to simplify things. Just need it to power the jack and to supply emergency brakes if it gets loose.

Water heater has been making a somewhat unhappy noise while it is doing its thing -- cleaned out the pipes looking for spider webs, and tried adjusting the tube back and forth. Best I can describe it as a vibration as the gas goes through the valve. Actually happened when we were in Branson...Color of the flame does not look quite right.

Probably the one thing that really bothered me was the intermittent brake problem that took three trips to the mothership to fix. I and Airstream blamed the Prodigy brake controller at first, and it turned out to be a loose wire. I was always wondering if my last stop would be my last with working trailer brakes...they never completely failed. Finally went up on a Friday and duplicated it with a technician using my truck and then his truck, and he kept looking until he found it. We were both excited when he found it.

Have not really had problems with the clear coat yet. Until recently, it was parked under a big ash (and a big a**ed) tree all the time. We just had a new concrete drive put in, and we gave it a new home next to the attached garage.

We have had great success in using it as a guest house. We have also had it on several vactions and many weekend trips, mostly within an hour of home.

It still looks pretty new. It still kind of smells new inside. Once the intiial problems ironed out, it has been 'fire and forget.'

Just looked at the 2007 Safaris at airstream.com, and saw the 28 W LS's must be pushing 60K -- glad we got it when we did. Wish ours had vista view windows, though.

Overall, we are happy. Just wish we had more time to enjoy it.

Someday we will make it back to Moraine View...

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Jack -- have not been around the forums much lately-- went to the 2004 Moraine View rally and met you...we have two daughters and the animated flamigos...
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Rob hope to see you there in the future.

Our plastic is still down. No problem with mold or any smells though. If the vista views were available on the 2004, I would have forgone the front skylight. For the center bath though, I'd keep that one. Would have loved to get a trailer with disc brakes also, although we are ok with the current electric drums. My batteries are marginal at this time. I'll probaby replace them next season. Next season is tire time also since they will hit the magical 5 year mark.

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Old 07-03-2007, 10:59 AM   #456
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My trailer is only a few months younger than Jacks. I went to Jackson Center and had the punch list ironed out. Here is what I encountered with my unit:

- Leak. Traced it by to the curbside wheel well. No caulk, factory caulked it.

- Windows do not seal (the cheap hehr windows). Factory gave me weather stripping to install. Never did the job and windows continue to leak cool, heat and sound.

- Tank sensors wouldn't work. Then had 2 controllers have LEDs burn out. Factory replaced control panel and recalibrated unit.

- Corrosion on cast alum tail lights and all 4 rims. Factory replaced and balanced. Corroision now rampant all over body and again on all four rims and both cast alum tail lights.

- Roof lockers didn't seem fully secured. Factory provided and installed additional screws into body to secure roof lockers better.

- Front dinette seat coming off from wall. Factory re-tightened and added a few extra screws to hold it in place.

- Larger front streetside glass in window was loose. Factory re-glased it using caulk and did come out fine.

- Dump valve handles broke off. Factory replaced.

- Power hitch jack kept blowing fuses when fully retracted. Factory fixed it, but it returned.

- Chrome trim at bottom rivet line delaminating. Factory replaced chrome strips.

- Wheel bearing recall done at factory.

- 2 interior lights had parts loose inside and one was partially inoperable. Factory repaired/replaced as needed.

New development over the past year:

Besides the corrosion issue as mentioned above, I noticed that when I walk over the floor where the tanks are over the axle, I get a groaning sound, like the tanks are moving.

Also something in the axles are squeeking when walking in the trailer and loud rattling can be heard when towing over bumps.

All in all, I'd have to give my 2004 Airstream a 4 or 5 out of a possible 10 in overall satisfaction, quality of build and value for the money. The ony higher marks I would give Airstream is in their employee areas. They are friendly and so long as you are under warranty, accessible.
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Water Heater sensor

Earlier, I posted that the water heater for my 2004 Safari 28W was not making happy sounds...

I was testing the water heater out this morning, and it was still making the hissing sound like the valve was vibrating. I was looking at the flame, and noticed the heat-sensing thermalcouple was glowing a bit. I then looked harder...

The thermalcouple is not a straight rod, but is a loop of wire (I assume). The loop is broken in the middle. Can someone comfirm with their 2004 that the loop is not suppossed to be broken in the middle -- I strongly suspect not. I do not think there are two thermalcouples there as there is only one wire from the sensor to the PC board...so the loop should be continuous...

Thanks in advance!

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I'm picking up the Safari today and will check. The only problem is that I won't have web access after I get to it. I'll post what I find on Monday.
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Also something in the axles are squeeking when walking in the trailer and loud rattling can be heard when towing over bumps.
The floor in my 2004 squeeks and creaks like it needs a heavy shot of WD-40, or something stronger. Dave Schumann walked on it and said there was no problem.

Originally, the most noise sounded whenever I walked in front of the refrigerator, and I assumed that this was intentionally put there as a result of Airstream's 75+ year's of experience, and was a sort of alarm to notify my wife whenever I got up during the night for a "refrigerator raid".

Later, the noise moved back a foot or so in our trailer to the bath area, which I believe is also over the holding tanks.

Last year when I returned our trailer to Jackson Center for the 5th time in a series of repairs, the service technician told me that one edge of a plywood sheet had not been secured to the frame. He said he put some screws in it (not bolted through the frame, however) which seemed to help for a short time, but now the noise is back with a vengence (screws, not bolts are also part of Airstream's design experience, I suppose.)

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Water Heater fixed...

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I'm picking up the Safari today and will check. The only problem is that I won't have web access after I get to it. I'll post what I find on Monday.
Twink,

Thanks for your quick offer of help!-- turns out the thing I was looking at was the ignitor (ran home from work during lunch) -- no thermocouple in the burner area...the gap I saw was as designed.

I took the tube apart and noted no problems. Unscrewed the orifice from the gas valve. It looked OK, but I cleaned it anyway. Put everything back together, and it is working like a champ. Must of dislodged the problem when I took it apart, be it in the tube or orifice.

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The floor in my 2004 squeeks and creaks like it needs a heavy shot of WD-40, or something stronger. Dave Schumann walked on it and said there was no problem.

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John, this sounds darn near identical to my issue, right down to the locations. I was going to take the tank cover off (underneath the RV) and see what it looks like up under there, making any adjustments I can. It's either that or drive 5 hours to Jackson Center. When I get the time and courage, I'll post what I find.

Rob, glad the issue with your water heater is resolved.
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Ok, just got back yesterday from a weekender and when I got home, my Micro Pulse tank monitor decided to totally stop and skip the fresh tank report/display. The LEDs work fine, but the system will no longer sense the fresh tank or display any status on it. Any thoughts before I contact the tank sensor company. I think they are under warranty for 5 years, but I'm not sure.....this will make my 4th unit since I bought my Safari in December of 2003.
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