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Old 11-28-2018, 11:02 AM   #15
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We camp year round in Canada. Last week it was -16C (3F) for 48 hours and we were full of water. We kept the indoor temperature at 66F which was sufficient to keep the tanks from freezing. Nothing else - no skirts, no extra heaters - nada. Usually we supplement our heat with electric but that isn't a good idea when it's going to be that cold. Our parks are all winterized so the exterior hose wasn't an issue.
We winterized with antifreeze on the weekend because all good things do come to an end but, we have never had any problems with having water in our tanks when we keep the rig as warm as toast.
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Old 11-28-2018, 11:10 AM   #16
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Robyn and I are full timers currently at Raccoon Mountain RV Park outside Chattanooga, TN. We are expecting a low tonight of 27 F. Last night we put the thermostat on Zone 2 @ 70, Furnace and Auto Fan. We also disconnected the campground water at the faucet and drained the hose. We were comfortable. The temperature is expected to stay below freezing starting 6pm today for about 12-hours. The only other thing we plan to do is open all the inside doors when freezing outside. We have water in the water heater using the electric to keep it warm. Also, we do not use any water until it is not freezing outside. Given the above any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you!
We've camped even colder than that, it get much colder we turn on our tank heaters (gray, black and fresh water), I assume you don't have them. If not I think you'll be fine with what you're doing.
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Old 11-28-2018, 11:34 AM   #17
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I frequently run the heat pumps for as much of the day/night as possible to reduce the load on the propane - and I am paying for the electric anyway so might as well use it, assuming that you aren't being metered. When it gets close to freezing and the efficiency drops off I switch to the furnace - **especially since the heat pump does not provide warm air to the sealed underbelly!** I was pleasantly surprised to see how effective the HPs were with even significantly cooler air to work with and I have saved a fair amount of $ using less propane.
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Old 11-28-2018, 04:51 PM   #18
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Below Freezing

I've spent two winters in Colorado above 6000ft. During both winters the temperatures went to -14f for several days at a time. The other advice about keeping water in the on-board tank and keeping the hot water heater going 24/7 worked for me. If you are going to be in -32f temps, why not get a Camco heated water hose? I've found they work to below 0. But wherever you are staying has to also have a heat tape on their water supply.

When it gets below Of things begin to get difficult. At -14 my internal water tank froze at the bottom where the outlet and sensor are. You mentioned a Y fitting which I would imagine is metal. That is the first thing that will freeze.

The tank outlet/dump valve also often will freeze - but using a silicon lubricant on it helps.

I also put the heat-shrink plastic on all windows that do not open. It seems to help a lot.

As to propane, I as well as many others, manually close one of the two tanks. Then if one runs out, you'll know fairly quickly and can then turn the back-up on (invariably at 3am)and refill the first tank the next day. In this way you never run completely out of propane.

It is also important to keep your internal propane heater on a comfortable setting and just leave it there. This eventually heats even the hidden areas of the trailer. If you have a newer tailer, there are heater ducks that go to the under floor covered area where the top of your black water tank and hoses are. This keeps them from freezing until it gets down to 0 to -10 degrees. Using an electric space heater often means the propane heater doesn't kick on.
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Old 11-28-2018, 07:33 PM   #19
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Lots of good advice , we stay in the South Okanagan BC for the winter months in a 30 ft - '05 MH Land Yacht-SL the only problem is the slide , the seals leak outside air , installed spray foam under the floor between the frame rails and use a heated rug ( https://www.amazon.ca/SpeedHeat-Rugb.../dp/B00067ASOA ) , always toasty warm , no need for skirting yet , been down to -15C last year.
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Old 11-29-2018, 09:48 AM   #20
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I bought the Pirit heated water hose. www.pitithose.com
i needed 100' and it was $200. heated w/thermostate so it runs from 42 degrees to 50 and shuts back off. it is also 100% lead free
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Old 11-29-2018, 10:33 AM   #21
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Our thanks to everyone supplying advice on our recent inquiry on “Winterizing in Chattanooga’s Racoon Mountain RV Park.

An extra special thank you to a fellow Airstreamer that stopped to offer advice after putting his eyes on Trinity 🙏. Please send me a personal message with an email name and I will respond. Thanks again.
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Old 12-05-2018, 11:30 AM   #22
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Dehumidifier

One thing I don't know if anyone has mentioned is getting a dehumidifier if you are connected to shore power. We full time and spent last winter and this one near Bridgeport just south of Tahoe. We have a skirt, heated hose, and just run the furnace a lot and have not had any issues with it going down to negative 5 or so last year. You will need to run a dehumidifier through the night though or you will wake up to condensation all over the windows and walls. We have a stand up unit that we roll into the bathroom and run at night. It's a pain moving it around, but well worth it.
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Old 12-05-2018, 11:51 AM   #23
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I wouldn't worry so much, it's only gonna be 27 degrees. Even that low point won't last long. You have already done all you need to do. Your furnace will heat the underbelly so you shouldn't have any problems there. You disconnected your city water hose and drained it. Now go in and make yourself a hot toddy and turn on your favorite tv channel. Enjoy your time near Chattanooga.
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Old 12-05-2018, 01:26 PM   #24
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Ft 3 years

We’ve been full time in an airstream for just over 3 years. Been in very cold approximately 14f high temps for 1 week plus. No skirt no electric heater, no window crap. You don’t “need” it.

As many have said run the propane furnace, it heats underbelly where the tanks are.

Heated hoses, and cover the valves/connections with something padded/insulating.

Moisture is an issue get a dehumidifier and humidity gauge for inside to monitor it. And make sure storage areas are not completely closed off. Moisture can lead to mold or even panel/floor rot/deterioration. We learned this the hard way.

The valve for the grey/black tanks will freeze shut, can thaw easily with hair dryer/heater. Also could probably use heat tape somewhere.
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Old 12-06-2018, 07:14 AM   #25
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Hi

Any valve that freezes shut is a valve that may be damaged as well ....

Freeze damage it not a "happens every time" sort of thing. Get the ice started over here and all is fine. Get it started on the other side and you have damage. Have a bit more "stuff" in the tanks and the water turns to slush, rinse the dishes a bit longer and it turns to hard ice.

Lots of variables.

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