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08-06-2013, 06:21 PM
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#1461
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Rivet Master
2012 30' Flying Cloud
San Antonio
, Texas
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 681
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Originally Posted by Howard L.
Let me know if you try a repair to the skin with it. Either way, just looking at how it perked up that plastic outside shower door, it would be a great improvement to h2o heater and Atwood door.
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Forgot, bought at Home Depot.
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08-06-2013, 07:28 PM
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#1462
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Rivet Master
2005 28' Safari S/O
Paradise
, California
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,446
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gene
Howard, have you tried it on the furnace and water heater doors? Perhaps you have the ones that match, but ours are a dull grey color.
Gene
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Gene,
If you haven't seen them, stainless steel replacements for these are available through the Airstream Store. At about $100 each, they are pricey, but look fantastic and would never need to be repainted or dealt with again. You can get them with or without rivets. When I'm feeling rich, I may go this route. I recently replaced the deteriorating plastic exterior range exhaust vent on my trailer with the stainless steel version, also available, and it looks fantastic.
Steve
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"THE OLDER I GET, THE BETTER I WAS"
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08-07-2013, 12:06 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,694
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Steve,
I thought the stainless covers were more than $100 each, but I haven't checked in a long while. Didn't know about the range hood replacement. Thanks.
I'll try paint first.
Gene
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The Airstream is sold; a 2016 Nash 24M replaced it.
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08-07-2013, 12:16 PM
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#1464
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Rivet Master
2012 30' International
Vintage Kin Owner
Bad Axe
, Michigan
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 564
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We have replaced everything that we could. Today we are in the process of replacing the outside shower with stainless. It was $245.
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2012 30' International Serenity
1947 Spartan Manor
2005 28' Safari LS - traded
1977 31' International Sovereign - sold
2012 Ford F250 Superduty Crewcab
WBCCI# 1007 Air#2158
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08-07-2013, 12:31 PM
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#1465
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Rivet Master
2005 28' Safari S/O
Paradise
, California
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,446
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gene
Steve,
I thought the stainless covers were more than $100 each, but I haven't checked in a long while. Didn't know about the range hood replacement. Thanks.
I'll try paint first.
Gene
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I just painted my WH door to try it. It looks a LOT better. I still love the stainless though. The furnace and water heater covers are $103.95 +shipping each. The exhaust vent is $128.95
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"THE OLDER I GET, THE BETTER I WAS"
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08-07-2013, 03:01 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' Classic
2012 28' International
Greensboro
, North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,708
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....was at the dealer's today. I saw the Airstream instructions to their dealers regarding the well known issue with the clearance lights. They are going to remove the 7 lights on my trailer and replace all of them -- and treat the small spots of filiform that are already there. I keep a vigilant eye out for other spots.
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2019 RAM 2500 Limited 4x4 CC w/6.7L Cummins
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08-07-2013, 03:20 PM
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#1467
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Rivet Master
2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Hoover
, Alabama
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 3,530
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Will my tailights on my trailer have this issue...would prefer to just dodge that bullet entirely if possible?
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08-07-2013, 07:41 PM
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#1468
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Rivet Master
2012 30' International
Vintage Kin Owner
Bad Axe
, Michigan
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 564
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BAB
....was at the dealer's today. I saw the Airstream instructions to their dealers regarding the well known issue with the clearance lights. They are going to remove the 7 lights on my trailer and replace all of them -- and treat the small spots of filiform that are already there. I keep a vigilant eye out for other spots.
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Good luck! The parts are back ordered.
I have told our saga elsewhere, but we got to the dealer to find out they didn't have the parts because they were back ordered.
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2012 30' International Serenity
1947 Spartan Manor
2005 28' Safari LS - traded
1977 31' International Sovereign - sold
2012 Ford F250 Superduty Crewcab
WBCCI# 1007 Air#2158
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08-07-2013, 07:47 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
, New England
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,402
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dkrug
Good luck! The parts are back ordered.
I have told our saga elsewhere, but we got to the dealer to find out they didn't have the parts because they were back ordered.
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I called the factory the other day. Parts are on back order but he started the process to get a full set to my dealer. I'm hoping they'll be in by October.
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08-07-2013, 09:45 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 30' Flying Cloud
San Antonio
, Texas
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 681
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PharmGeek
Will my tailights on my trailer have this issue...would prefer to just dodge that bullet entirely if possible?
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Without the Classic trailer running light outer cast frame the issue will come at you sooner or later. My suggestion, don't accept the trailer without a running/position light fix.
Here is another possibility, and may be what JC plans to do with new trailers until a better running light is used.
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08-07-2013, 10:45 PM
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#1471
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PharmGeek
Will my tailights on my trailer have this issue...would prefer to just dodge that bullet entirely if possible?
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From about mid-model year 2012 they began using a thicker gasket so the light frame does not contact the exterior shell. That's our problem as I am aware of it and we had repaired at Jackson Center.
The problem seems to begin when they first started the new LED clearance lights, sometime during 2010 and through early 2012 models years, all models except Classics which use a different light fixture.
doug
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08-08-2013, 05:11 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 19,977
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Pretty sad really...seems JC just keeps getting it rong.
How hard is it to find and install a quality clearance or tail light assembly.
Guess they just need 50 more years of "improvements" instead of meaningless changes.
Took me a couple years to get the c-lights waterproof, if i ever want LED's I'll just change the bulbs.
Bob
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08-08-2013, 07:52 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERT CROSS
Pretty sad really...seems JC just keeps getting it rong.
How hard is it to find and install a quality clearance or tail light assembly.
Guess they just need 50 more years of "improvements" instead of meaningless changes.
Took me a couple years to get the c-lights waterproof, if i ever want LED's I'll just change the bulbs.
Bob
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They got it rite, have a high quality LED clearance light on the Classic models, the premium lights come with the premium trailer. Anyone can upgrade later if they want.
While on a trip last fall we stopped at JC, they replaced all of our faulty FC clearance lights with the high quality Classic lights at no cost to us because of the failure of the originals. They sealed both the light frame to the shell, and lens to the light frame. No leaks or corrosion.
doug k
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08-08-2013, 08:15 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2007 27' Safari FB SE
LONDON
, ON
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 276
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CA Streamer
I just painted my WH door to try it. It looks a LOT better. I still love the stainless though. The furnace and water heater covers are $103.95 +shipping each. The exhaust vent is $128.95
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Roger Williams RV did have the stainless WH, furnace, and vent hood for about $20 each a while ago. Not sure if they have any left but I did all 3 and they look great. Ken was the guy to talk to in parts.
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08-08-2013, 09:45 AM
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#1475
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 19,977
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dkottum
They got it rite, have a high quality LED clearance light on the Classic models, the premium lights come with the premium trailer. Anyone can upgrade later if they want.
While on a trip last fall we stopped at JC, they replaced all of our faulty FC clearance lights with the high quality Classic lights at no cost to us because of the failure of the originals. They sealed both the light frame to the shell, and lens to the light frame. No leaks or corrosion.
doug k
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Doug,
Ok....so it's cheaper for AS to only put the "good stuff" on the one model trailer?
Telling someone spending 50k that they'll have to buy the special light option if they want to avoid corrosion and leaks is not really a good business model.(I think)
Seems to me one for all would be the less costly option, after all they all use clearance lights, (outsourced), even the dreaded SOB's.
Bob
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08-08-2013, 11:12 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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No no Bob, trying to say they use better components on the premium model, cheaper components on the cheaper model. And they are standing behind their screwup on the first LED attempt.
I'm here to let others know what I have learned, and to learn from them.
Most of the new ones are well over $50k but I wouldn't compare them to a $25k SOB or a $500k MH except they all provide shelter. Go to a quality RV park these days and a new Airstream is on the low end of the price scale, even with a nice truck to pull it. You'll have a lot less mobile RV repair guys visiting you than the expensive rigs as well.
doug
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08-08-2013, 11:21 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 23' Safari SE
Central
, Connecticut
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,652
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverCottage
Roger Williams RV did have the stainless WH, furnace, and vent hood for about $20 each a while ago. Not sure if they have any left but I did all 3 and they look great. Ken was the guy to talk to in parts.
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I think the super-sale parts are all gone - I bought one of the last vent hoods from them, and the other parts were sold out at that point.
Tom
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08-08-2013, 12:32 PM
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#1478
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Rivet Master
2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Hoover
, Alabama
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 3,530
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so just to reiterate Doug - you think my new AS will come with an acceptable fix...possibly? Otherwise, perhaps it would behoove me to request JC to put the classic fixtures on and avoid the whole hassle...
But, if this fix they did you mentioned before seems reasonable and it all looks good, then no worries. I certainly do not mind when spending this kind of money spending a few more bucks to avoid an annoying problem that is for sure...
I need to go back through this thread and find the comparison photos of the non-classic LED fixture and the classic....
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08-08-2013, 02:38 PM
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#1479
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Rivet Master
2012 30' International
Vintage Kin Owner
Bad Axe
, Michigan
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 564
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gene
Thanks for the info Howard. Maybe I'll try it and see what happens.
Can't look worse than the grey. Our shower door is painted some bad match color which is just starting to flake, so that would be the place to start.
Gene
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Gene,
if you would like our plastic shower unit you can have it . Since we replaced it with stainless steel it is just sitting in the shed. We purchased the trailer new last August and it was stored inside all winter so the shower door is in good shape.
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2012 30' International Serenity
1947 Spartan Manor
2005 28' Safari LS - traded
1977 31' International Sovereign - sold
2012 Ford F250 Superduty Crewcab
WBCCI# 1007 Air#2158
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08-08-2013, 08:09 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,694
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Thanks dkrug, but the door is ok, just the paint starting to flake. Easier to paint than replace.
Gene
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The Airstream is sold; a 2016 Nash 24M replaced it.
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