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Old 11-13-2009, 11:44 PM   #995
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Well, I would say most of my problems are from camping on the west coast these past few years. That little residue left from the ocean mist is really a problem for Airstreams. Good luck.
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Old 11-14-2009, 06:03 AM   #996
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White stuff, cracks, flacking, wheels! My head is spinning. Spend two hours with my SIL last night, inspecting his less than year old exp SOB. Problems: 3 EO's dead, awning needs replacement,axle's improperly installed.(tires about shot) SO starts and stops in operation,graphic,s peeling.Plus the W is constantly reminding him of the great deal he got by purchasing and having the TT delivered from Mich. I have had a few issue,s but I would never consider another SOB. A fellow I know; had to replace the RFr in his canceled warranty MH(Due to BankR of MF) . Had to remove Frt W's to get old out and new in. The Frig MF did honor some of the cost, but not all; claimed ELec. problem cause the damage to occur. He is purchasing AfMr.repair program at considerable cost.He indicated that, if someone was interested in a slightly used MH, he could offer a good deal. We all have our problems.woppa4
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Old 01-05-2010, 05:55 AM   #997
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Wink Hallelujah.....

Thank You Mr. Wheeler..

Finally proof positive that the Mothership has heard our concerns and is doing everything they can to resolve them.


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Old 01-05-2010, 09:48 AM   #998
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look closely that is a FORD spec'd clear coat touch up pen...

basically generic automotive clearcoat, unless the pic is wrong.

these are magic marker sized containers with a fiber tip, that when compress INTO the container...

lets clearcoat flow.

sold on the tele as MAGIC PAINT REPAIR and sold at almost ALL auto parts stores under several national brand names.

the pens are fine for tiny scratches or to go over a previously corroded spot that's been sanded...

but it doesn't dry totally flat, looks like a CLEAR SCAR once hardened.

notice they have been carrying 'corrosion sprays' for well over a year now at the a/s factory store.

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Old 01-05-2010, 11:02 AM   #999
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look closely that is a FORD spec'd clear coat touch up pen...

basically generic automotive clearcoat, unless the pic is wrong.

these are magic marker sized containers with a fiber tip, that when compress INTO the container...

lets clearcoat flow.

sold on the tele as MAGIC PAINT REPAIR and sold at almost ALL auto parts stores under several national brand names.

the pens are fine for tiny scratches or to go over a previously corroded spot that's been sanded...



but it doesn't dry totally flat, looks like a CLEAR SCAR once hardened.

notice they have been carrying 'corrosion sprays' for well over a year now at the a/s factory store.

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Boy 2, you are HARD to please.

I am perfectly aware that the "pen" works about as well as the "corrosion spray's" selling for twice as much as.......
Are you saying that this isn't a sincere effort?
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no, selling clearcoat 'touch up' is a nice thing and the price isn't outta line.

but the same stuff is available and has been for years locally.

my experience with the fiber pen paint touch up products is that they are OK for tiny nicks, and NOT so good for longer scratches...

and useless on spots larger than a 2-3 mm.

on a pigmented painted surface like a car hood, one can SEE nicks and fill as needed.

can we see the TINY clearcoat nicks that lead to filiform or a stream ? no...

now about being sincere...

are U just bumping the C thread for other reasons...

happy next year!

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I am perfectly aware that the "pen" works about as well as the "corrosion spray's" selling for twice as much as.......
Are you saying that this isn't a sincere effort?

The way things are going... only offering a pen the size of a baseball bat would be considered a 'sincere' effort.
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So far then I see 14 or 15 units. Some barely a year old. This has got to be a problem. If this was not a problem 15 folks would not all be saying the exact same thing.

Anyone else out there that has a newer Aistream that has anything looking like any of the white spider marks anywhere on their Airstream (see Airstream Issue or see the picture in post #20), please post and let us know.

To me, it's just plain not acceptable for a unit of 5 years or less to look this way. I do expect some wear and tear and aging, but this is totally unacceptable. Those of you who have a warranty still, please share with us the solution that Airstream proposes. To date, the current fix is to add sheets of alum over the existing, replace parts that can be replaced or cover up the issue with trim pieces. The issue though is that it comes back no matter what they do. There is a root cause that is NOT being addressed.

One or two units, I could accept (like Airstream said, they are hand built), but nearly 15 units, all having the exact same issues, posted less than 36 hours ago?? Folks, (if the average Airstream price paid was $50k) this represents about $750,000 in hardware that has a MAJOR flaw in it, just from what's been posted to date! It seems to me, and mind you, I'm no expert here, but, it seems to me that whatever is causing this to happen, is not being addressed since we have units from 2002 all the way through 2007 reporting here-- that's 6 model years! Me, I seem to have been blown off so far, but I'm not giving up. How Airstream responds to folks with this issue (both in and out of warranty given how common this appears to be) will determine if I ever own another Airstream again.

Please continue to post if you haven't already and see the issue happening to your Airstream!

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Well I have had mine for going on 3 years and it's starting to show the corrosion just a little. I only wash the outside when I bring the rig home just before going out. I do use mild soap and rinse well and then apply a water soluble clear coat protestant. Funny thing is there is the exact same model about 10 spaces from me at my storage facility. His is about 1 year older then mine and I see no corrosion at all. I average about 30-40 days on the road and have only seen his rig gone once. He probably still is on his original propane fill. My license plate light and tail light rings are starting to pit most likely due to a poor plating job.
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I have noticed them on my 2007 Safari. About 10 of them, up to 1 cm in size. Mostly around the taillights.
Used some oil my dealer sold me to reduce their spread. Hard to say if it works....
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So far then I see 14 or 15 units. Some barely a year old. This has got to be a problem. If this was not a problem 15 folks would not all be saying the exact same thing.

Anyone else out there that has a newer Aistream that has anything looking like any of the white spider marks anywhere on their Airstream (see Airstream Issue or see the picture in post #20), please post and let us know.

To me, it's just plain not acceptable for a unit of 5 years or less to look this way. I do expect some wear and tear and aging, but this is totally unacceptable. Those of you who have a warranty still, please share with us the solution that Airstream proposes. To date, the current fix is to add sheets of alum over the existing, replace parts that can be replaced or cover up the issue with trim pieces. The issue though is that it comes back no matter what they do. There is a root cause that is NOT being addressed.

One or two units, I could accept (like Airstream said, they are hand built), but nearly 15 units, all having the exact same issues, posted less than 36 hours ago?? Folks, (if the average Airstream price paid was $50k) this represents about $750,000 in hardware that has a MAJOR flaw in it, just from what's been posted to date! It seems to me, and mind you, I'm no expert here, but, it seems to me that whatever is causing this to happen, is not being addressed since we have units from 2002 all the way through 2007 reporting here-- that's 6 model years! Me, I seem to have been blown off so far, but I'm not giving up. How Airstream responds to folks with this issue (both in and out of warranty given how common this appears to be) will determine if I ever own another Airstream again.

Please continue to post if you haven't already and see the issue happening to your Airstream!

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I have a 2008 International. Last July I spotted (after a friend pointed them out to me) two spots of " filiform" corrosion. One is on the bezel of the road side tail light and the other is on the handle adjacent to the door.

When I was at Jackson Center a few weeks later for other warranty work I showed the spots to Jim Parrot and he politely told me to go pound salt.

OK, what he actually said after I asked him to replace the bezel was "Airstream does not warrant against corrosion".

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Wow, I can't believe that after a number of days I'm finally finished reading this thread. And it's still like a whirlpool, going round and round and spinning down the hole. When I started reading I was hoping for a sure fire fix and sure fire I didn't get it. Don't get me wrong, though, as there have been a lot of good ideas presented and I've taken notes and will try some.

For a little background, I had a 2005, 19' Bambi that I bought used and it had corrosion issues in all the usual places. It was too small for us but we did get the aluminumitis and soon bought a 2008 Safari SE 27 FB. It also has started to show problem areas, again in the usual places. The worst of it was the door handle and when I asked about getting it repaired the factory gave me the usual, "Not our problem. You live in the Tampa Bay area of Florida and it's the marine environment." I also asked them to extend my warranty for six months as I have had absolutely endless problems: Leaks in several places, one of which won't go away; mildewed dinette cushion from leak; buckled areas in floor from leaks; Refrig not cooling when we're on the move; failed front jack; failed Parallax unit, failed batteries; heater quit, (bad installation of fuse holder); Bottom plastic of refrigerator door hinge broke requiring a new door, cabinets between the stove and the bath shifted out and toward the bath so that I couldn't open the bath cabinet mirror; water line leak under the sink; bathroom sink faucet handle came off; refrigerator light melted itself until the cover fell off, and the usual popped rivits and "where the heck did this screw come from?" The factories answer, of course, was, "No, not going to extend".

Despite all of the frustration my wife and I love the AS. I would no more think of getting a SOB than I would think of trading out my kids, and trust me on this, my kids aren't perfect either. I plan on keeping my 27' a long time and just fix or improve it as necessary. I wash it once in a while, have never waxed it and park it outside.

Despite my negelect compared to some of you, my corrosion is very minor. The handle bothered me so I sanded it off: small angle head air sander with a small Scotch Brite type disc. This cleaned it up nicely and I then painted it with a Rustoleum clear spray can. I am under no illusion that my "fix" is a permanent one but when it looks crummy again I'll probably do the same thing again. Right now, unless you look real closely, it looks at least as good as new. The real closely part comes in because I couldn't get in behind the handle and I also purposely masked off just a little wider than the base of the handle in hopes of sealing off that area.

On an interesting note, a service tech at Bates RV upon taking note of the filiform corrosion on the front corner seam, made an interesting comment that I hadn't heard on this thread. He said that perhaps the reason that much of the corrosion first shows up on the end caps is because the protective finish is compromised when the end panels are formed. I have no idea how AS forms the caps but I would surmise stretch forming.

I've worked with metals all my life and they are all prone to corrosion in the right conditions. Some things you just have to keep after. I haven't got the answer to the filiform corrosion in the belt line area yet but my wheels are turning. I don't know that putting a cover over that area is the best solution as I also worry about it creeping out eventually. If I could figure out a way to strip that area, and only that area where the belt line rivits are... hmmm... stripped in a nice straigth line up to about a half inch above the rivits, scotch brite or sand the bare metal to give it a texture/look like the rest of the AS, paint to just below the bottom of the upper panel and just above the stripped area with an automotive clear polyurethane that was flattened slightly... Gee, if I, or someone could figure this out there might be a business opportunity here... Hmmm. Do I have the guts to experiment on my 2008 unit????
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