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Old 03-10-2009, 04:38 PM   #715
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What really hits home is all of this is those 60 through 80s units look better than my 2004!!!
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Old 03-10-2009, 05:05 PM   #716
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What really hits home is all of this is those 60 through 80s units look better than my 2004!!!
...and most of them didn't show issues, some as early as 6 months off the factory floor either.
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Old 03-10-2009, 06:05 PM   #717
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I don't think that you can really arrive at a "solution" or "correct the problem" with an issue like this. Corrosion is a fact of life for every AS owner. The Muthaship can't "fix" this. The best they can do is to stop making new trailers with the same old problem. Maybe they can't return to the same finish or application as they once used, but I would bet that they can do a helluvalot better than they are now! I would hate to see Airstream disappear. They are an American Icon. I hope that they can be convinced to pick themselves up out of the gutter and get back to the prominent position they once held.
My position on finishing is based on what I've seen here and on the road. I never want to have a trailer that has the filiform creeping all over it, or the blemished look of peeling clearcoat. I don't want to spend all of my "free" time polishing or sanding, or applying clearcoat. I want to hitch up and go, and be satisfied with what I have. I might polish mine once every year, or every five years, or maybe just once, but it will age more gracefully and with less maintenance if it doesn't have a clear finish on it.
As far as the issue of legal action, I did not mean that by sueing them in small claims court that you would recover your losses. I don't believe that it's possible to recover enough to make this worthwhile. My intent in saying that was that if enough of you who have this issue take a small bite out of their profits, it might be the tipping point to get them off their asses and acting on the real issue of PREMATURE CORROSION on new trailers. AND, in sunny California you can sue for a maximum of $7500.00, which would get you a stripped finish and the initial polishing job on an average sized trailer!
Someone asked a few posts ago about the longevity of the polish job on aluminum. I can't answer that very well myself because I'm just starting to polish my first one. What I have heard and believe to be correct is that the initial polishing is the hardest to do, and that the higher the polish, the longer it lasts.
I also heard that the more you polish, the bigger your biceps get!
Now that I believe!

Thanks to Silvertwinkie, for getting this started with a simple question. Bet you didn't know it might grow into this.

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Old 03-10-2009, 06:47 PM   #718
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Well was at a Airstream dealer in TX getting a little repair job done on my trailer today and while it was being done I checked all the Airstream's on the lot for filiform. I may have found the first 2009 Flying Cloud that I've seen with the problem. It had what looked like it on 2 of the curved panels but it was very slight so far and I can't swear to it. There was another FC there that seemed to be clean. But a number of the other trailers had the problem including a 2008 Sport that had a large spot next to a rivert - on this trailer I couldn't find any on any of the curved panels. There was a 2005 Safari that they had just sold used that had lots on both front and rear curved panels and around some rivets. Wonder if they pointed it out to the buyer? So if that actually was filiform on the 2009 FC it means that Airstream hasn't solved the problem yet.
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Old 03-10-2009, 06:59 PM   #719
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Thanks to Silvertwinkie, for getting this started with a simple question. Bet you didn't know it might grow into this.

Nope, I didn't, nor did I even consider that the corrosion that I first saw would grow into what was recently pictured in post #685. Got a PM from someone also said their unit also looks like SheryLynn's in post #685 and started just like mine.

The fact that an 09 may have it, just leaves one speechless.

In reality, the thanks should go to DMac, he posted the problem well before I even got my unit, which started to get the dreaded issued about a year after I took delivery.
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Couple of things I forgot. They had 3 Basecamp's and one of those had it - the first I've seen on a BC but there aren't many of them around. Also had a Panamerica and I really looked this one over close but couldn't find a trace. But they are pretty new so I suspect it's just a matter of time.
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I understand not using it for bugs, but corrosion? What makes this different than sandpaper? sand = glass


I learned the hard way, tried the Scotch-brite in an emergency to get the bugs off the old TV windshield, big time scratches, glass will scratch glass Not good.

S/B was what I first tried on the filliform, dulled the finish and just didn't look good, not smooth and color off.

Will be trying an Eastwood Epoxy Aluminum paint this Spring, it should finish well with the 2000 grit wet/dry paper. I I like the sandpaper method, works better for finish I'm trying for.

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Old 03-10-2009, 08:23 PM   #722
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Well was at a Airstream dealer in TX getting a little repair job done on my trailer today and while it was being done I checked all the Airstream's on the lot for filiform. I may have found the first 2009 Flying Cloud that I've seen with the problem. It had what looked like it on 2 of the curved panels but it was very slight so far and I can't swear to it. There was another FC there that seemed to be clean. But a number of the other trailers had the problem including a 2008 Sport that had a large spot next to a rivert - on this trailer I couldn't find any on any of the curved panels. There was a 2005 Safari that they had just sold used that had lots on both front and rear curved panels and around some rivets. Wonder if they pointed it out to the buyer? So if that actually was filiform on the 2009 FC it means that Airstream hasn't solved the problem yet.
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Did you ask the dealer about the filiform? I would have if I were there.
If you did what was their response?

So far on my 2008 27FB I only have it on the handles by the front door and the trim above the wheel well.

We have dealers (top ten dealers) on this forum....what are they saying to Airstream?

This is so frustrating.........

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It's ironic but....

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I understand not using it for bugs, but corrosion? What makes this different than sandpaper? sand = glass
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The grit in most common sandpaper is aluminum oxide, that same material that dulls our finish.
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:25 PM   #724
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This link has nice before and after pictures of an older airstream. Can you do this with a 2004+ model airstream infected with this filliform virus? I read a lot about rotten floors, rusted frames, etc. and the cost to fix/replace parts, but it seems rare that members are replacing panels for reasons other than dents. Has anyone with a 2004+ model year tried to strip off clearcoat and get a good shine on like this?

http://www.airforums.com/photos/brow...0&userid=16328
or is it even possible?
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Simple question which may have been answered. If untreated will this corrosion eventually create holes? How long would this take? I have an 05 Bambi with the problem and if it will take 15 plus years to rust through then I can live with the cosmetics. jim
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The grit in most common sandpaper is aluminum oxide, that same material that dulls our finish.



2000 grit+ and plenty of water, removes the the residue. The prep looks good. Looking for a suitable coating now.
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I have used 400 grit wet/dry paper for finishing wood. It's readily available in hardware and big box stores (Lowe's, Home Depot), but have never seen 2,000. Maybe because I never looked for it. 400 is really fine grit, I can't imagine how fine 2,000 is and it must take a long, long time to remove anything with it. Doing an entire trailer might take so long you'd have to start replacing the frame by that time.

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Me thinks at some point, I will have a date with these boys:

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Thanks for the head up, mine is sitting in Ft.Collins, hopefully the drier climate will slow things down a bit. At least these guys are an alternative if on this side of the rockies, and the look has deteriorated to the point of shame. This will be really the last thing we can do for all on this forum is to have repair facilities close to home that can do the job correctly. I have the ability to take it anywhere, but most do not. Can you imagine say in 10 years all the unique looking streamers going down the road? Those that have been done poorly, or painted unique colors, and of course those big blotches just waiting for a 5-8k investment?? I cant tell you how many times people have asked me if our trailer is really old and asking if A/S still makes them. Now it will get really confusing, 30 year old rigs will look better than new ones!!
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