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Old 05-15-2016, 08:26 AM   #2325
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I apply the coatings to the frame and underbody too and it has been working. I looked at the spare tire the other day and noticed that the rim was not looking good so I will clean it and add it to the regular treatment. But that exposed interface concerns me. I am not sure how these after market treatments impact the surface bonding. I know the process used by Alcoa is pretty good as I looked for filiform formation on a number of test plates I cut and was impressed that it was not that pronounced. But I have not tested for delamination due to treatments; too much work doing what AS should do.
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Old 05-15-2016, 09:11 AM   #2326
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Corrosion X Info

NOte that Corrosion X is sticky and will attract dirt. I sprayed my 28' FC in many locations before driving from Melbourne Beach, FL to Las Vegas and when I looked at sprayed areas when I arrived the dirt was awful. Grime that was very hard to remove and made a brutal mess. The AS looked like it just came out of a mud pit. Recommend you do not apply before going on a trip.



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An update - I'm now at 2.5 years of ownership of my 2014 bunkhouse - no filliform on my skin anywhere - I think the door handle has a bit of it I think

I've done now 2 applications of the corrosion X spray to all seams and such - die for repeat this summer and I do it yearly not quarterly so far

Monthly washing - yearly application of griots paint sealant (a synthetic wax) and monthly spray on wax and dry after wash..

I go to the beach multiple times per year but live 4 hours from saltwater - always wash trailer thorough upon beach return.

So far so good thankfully
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Old 05-16-2016, 03:20 PM   #2327
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We applied CorrosionX on our body shell and Boeshield T9 to the underbody steel of our new Airstream the day we brought it home. The panel edges look like new and there is no corrosion on our Airstream going on five years. No technical data here but the proof is in the pudding.

I've been meaning to post: I used Boeshield T9 on my wheels (rims) early 2013 when they first showed filiform spots. I sprayed it on thickly, let dry overnight and then removed the wax with a clean dry rag the next day. I've only washed the wheels along with the trailer since and there has not been another spot show up anywhere. I can tell the thin film of wax is still there by feel and the way water still beads. The T9 lasting power is impressive.


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Old 05-16-2016, 03:57 PM   #2328
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NOte that Corrosion X is sticky and will attract dirt. .
Hmmm... That hasn't been my experience. I've wiped prone areas and edges with it for years and haven't noticed that. Maybe you are leaving more of it on than I am. What I do has worked for me: spray the area and wipe it down. Seems pretty dry after an easy wipe.
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Old 05-16-2016, 04:53 PM   #2329
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Same here - no big issues with dirt

Actually - even in an extreme example - my first application was liberal and I wiped excess - then did a light wash...then went to can opener rally Jan 2014 - and my rig was bleeding that stuff at the seams - well not that noticeable really but yeah

Got home and it washed off fairly easy as I recall

I can however imagine that if conditions were difference it could make even more mess with dirt + that excess

Since then I am very light on my application - very little excess as such - then next day I wash it all off lightly no prob
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Old 05-16-2016, 08:10 PM   #2330
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After you clean off the excess cX or Bs do you then do a normal waxing of the trailer?
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Old 05-17-2016, 09:26 PM   #2331
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After I apply X, I wash and I can wax if I want. I've not had a problem with dirt sticking to the X.
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Old 05-17-2016, 09:53 PM   #2332
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It doesn't take much CorrosionX, a Q-Tip applies plenty to the panel rivets and panel edges, and spray some on a rag for the larger accessories. Let it soak awhile as you move on, then go back and wipe it up.
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Old 05-19-2016, 02:20 PM   #2333
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This may have been said - but I just noticed airstream website sells the X and T9 lol
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Old 05-19-2016, 04:01 PM   #2334
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Old 06-03-2016, 06:21 PM   #2335
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I am pretty irritated about the filiform corrosion on my 2010 International. Its everywhere.

Just covering it up with paint wont stop the corrosion and at some point there will be perforations. Imagine the effect on your used selling price?

That's what I am trying to quantify because if that "discount" is a real factor in resale situations, then something has to be done.

To me, that means suing the dealer and AS in Small Claims Court ( up to 50,000$) for damages representing the "discount" due to filiform corrosion.

To my mind, there is a good argument that AS has known about this issue for a long time and has done nothing about it, continuing to sell units knowing that the aluminu was flawed.. That is negligence
So, going back to where I started, has anyone experienced reluctance or difficulty on a resale due to corrosion ?

Thanks!
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Old 06-03-2016, 10:24 PM   #2336
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at some point there will be perforations.
There is very little likelihood that filiform corrosion will lead to perforation.

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Old 06-04-2016, 07:33 AM   #2337
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I am pretty irritated about the filiform corrosion on my 2010 International. Its everywhere.

Just covering it up with paint wont stop the corrosion and at some point there will be perforations. Imagine the effect on your used selling price?

That's what I am trying to quantify because if that "discount" is a real factor in resale situations, then something has to be done.

To me, that means suing the dealer and AS in Small Claims Court ( up to 50,000$) for damages representing the "discount" due to filiform corrosion.

To my mind, there is a good argument that AS has known about this issue for a long time and has done nothing about it, continuing to sell units knowing that the aluminu was flawed.. That is negligence
So, going back to where I started, has anyone experienced reluctance or difficulty on a resale due to corrosion ?

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Filiform is cosmetic only. Not an issue with many owners.
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Old 06-04-2016, 08:25 AM   #2338
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Filiform Frustration

I completely understand your frustration with the filiform corrosion. My 2008 International had belt line as well as other corrosion. As long as Airstream cuts and drills the aluminum panels in the factory and breaks the protective barriers, then drags the aluminum sheets by hand across the floor, there will be filiform corrosion. I too have thought of a lawsuit but was able to get some satisfaction in an easier way.

In 2012 I took my 4 year old airstream to the factory and pleaded my case. On the phone Airstream said from day one that they did not warranty against corrosion. My Airstream had it since the day I bought it new from the dealer. The factory probably will not tell you this on the phone, but this is what they did for me. They said to bring my AS to Jackson Center and they would "see" what could be done. What they did was to "treat" the filiform and to place a belt line strip around the AS. They also replaced the plinth tail lights and door handle and running light plinths. All material was comped and I only had to pay for the labor. It was about 3 hours. I know it costs a lot to drag your AS to the factory and the belt line strip only "hides" the filiform, but after 4 more years the filiform has not grown out from under the belt line and the rig looks so much better. This is not a perfect solution but will cover the worst of the filiform on the belt line. I still keep my corrosion X, 2000 grit sand paper, plastic scraper and clear fingernail polish handy to tackle small filiform around lights or rock chips and have put on several seminars for other Airstreamers on how to address Filiform.

I did try to talk to Airstream's engineers about the Filiform and the dragging of sheets of aluminum across the floor. They basically denied knowledge of the problem. This was disappointing and I assume legal council advised them from talking to owners about the corrosion for fears of lawsuits.

I realize my experience may not work for everyone but my Airstream looks so much better and I believe it will be easier to sell now that the major part of the corrosion is covered. Besides, it was fun to see the factory. Hope this information helps and you can believe there are many of us that feel your pain.
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