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Old 10-20-2015, 02:51 PM   #2269
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So Howard, What do you think is happening here. Mine have no chrome-like appearance at all anymore. They darkened to the point that I don't see any shine just dull, almost black. Not that noticeable. Is it a chrome like paint that is pealing? Or is it in fact rusting through to the plastic? Would it be possible to sand lightly and use a chrome like spray paint?

I haven't ever taken one apart and had considered replacing mine, but I haven't found the rings themselves.

I have taken apart the rear taillight assemblies which are Chrome surrounds mounted to the Aluminum base (the latter was fraught with filliform BTW). And the chrome there is pitted with rust, very similar to the photo above, just further advanced. Looking to replace those as well.
I agree with Msmoto, something is wrong there. I would call AS cust service and ask what they plan on doing to fix all this plastic stuff. Is anybody else with a 2016 having this problem?
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Old 10-21-2015, 11:31 AM   #2270
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Thanks for the comments about the discolouration of the marker/clearance light housings on my AS that was built early summer 2016. I've since looked at all of my marker lights and they are all going the same way, some bad, some worse. I spoke with my AS dealer and they are looking into it. Here are two more pics.
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Old 10-21-2015, 07:01 PM   #2271
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That's odd looking. Let us know what you find out.
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Old 10-22-2015, 05:26 AM   #2272
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Could that be a reaction to something used to wax, wash or polish the skin?
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Old 10-22-2015, 05:53 AM   #2273
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I know the process of chrome on steel. The last auto I really liked had bumpers like that. But, the plating process for plastic?, don't understand. I would bet this is a bad batch of plastic chrome from China somewhere.
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Old 10-22-2015, 06:03 AM   #2274
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My "chrome" rings are completely blackened... 2007 Safari SE. I decided they were consistently dark and hardly noticeable unless you know they are supposed to be shiny chrome, lol.
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Old 10-22-2015, 06:34 PM   #2275
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Could that be a reaction to something used to wax, wash or polish the skin?
The only thing done to it in that vein was the dealer itself applied a Walbernize finish as part of their prep. That was in July when we picked up the AS new. It's sat in my yard until our first trip in October (too busy with the new house) and I discovered the issue when I went to wash to road grime off upon our return. Since AS has been recommending the Walbernize product since forever I doubt that's it. I suspect a defective batch of marker light housings.
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Old 10-22-2015, 10:08 PM   #2276
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A quick internet check showed that my memory about the process of chrome plating plastic is correct. Common is a moderately thick coat of copper followed by nickel and then chrome. Sometimes only nickel is used. From the appearance of the marker light parts, it looks like corrosion has reached a layer of copper.

My 2002 Bambi has the solution: the bases of the marker lights are white plastic. No metallic plating and nothing to corrode. Of course, the plastic will eventually crumble!

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Old 10-23-2015, 04:22 AM   #2277
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Chineeze krome degrades faster because of the global warming air polution.

Kleen well & paint

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Old 10-23-2015, 05:01 AM   #2278
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Get them replaced under warrantee ! You paid big bucks for a premium trailer let airstream have the problem.

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Old 11-06-2015, 01:31 PM   #2279
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My new to me 2007 Classic has filiform on the rims. Just discovered it, but have only owned for about a month. No other signs, as yet.
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My new to me 2007 Classic has filiform on the rims. Just discovered it, but have only owned for about a month. No other signs, as yet.
Tow it through some mud on your way to an awesome remote camping spot and forget all about it! We live in a highly corrosive environment, this will happen!
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Old 11-17-2015, 04:43 PM   #2281
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A Prospective AS Buyer Weighing In

I've spent a good deal of time reading about various AS experiences on these wonderful forums. I am contemplating selling my 2014 Roadtrek RS Adventurous and buying a new 27 FB FC. But 163 pages of discussions describing corrosion problems has certainly made me stop and think!

I'm starting to believe that quality issues plague the RV industry in general, not just AS. I have had more than my share of problems with the Roadtrek. In the 15 months that I've owned it, it has spent 2 months in the shop. Either Mercedes or the Roadtrek dealer. Nothing major like corrosion, but nagging things that take a lot of time to resolve.

One thing I think I've learned from my $120k plus Roadtrek experiment is that nothing is perfect and if one wants to pursue an RV path, one has to expect hiccups. The question becomes what threshold of pain should you expect to endure?

I think a good dealer is important. I really missed the boat on this with my Roadtrek. My local dealer is really bad. I could go on ad nauseum about this, but will spare you the gory details. Nevertheless, I've learned my lesson.

So...If I do decide to buy an AS, a dealer with good support within a couple of hundred miles will be important to me. Does this exist? Not sure, I'm still researching. Depending on JC is not an option and unreasonable in my opinion.

In the meantime, I have a new TV waiting for a date. We'll have to see if my new TV spends the rest of its life a lonely TV. . I hope not!

Thank you everybody for the great donation of information, you folks are a great bunch!!

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Old 11-18-2015, 09:25 AM   #2282
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Tom, you sum up the problems many of us have faced. Be glad you don't live in Colorado where there is only one dealer and not a good one. There have been dealers recommended in Texas, but since I don't live there, I don't remember the names. We ended up going to JC for warranty service. It was a 1,400 mile trip, but the service was superior and we incorporated that into a road trip. Seems crazy and it is, but we weren't going to sell the Airstream after a year because the dealer was terrible.

We like the Airstream for superior towing and cool looks. A lot of stuff—materials, workmanship, are low quality. But so are most RV's, some a lot worse, and few are better.

Look into buying a used one—someone has taken the depreciation hit and fixed most or all of the problems.

We haven't had much corrosion, so make sure you live in a desert like we do.

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