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Old 08-17-2014, 07:39 AM   #2031
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It's not just that little piece of plastic.
It's that and the other 30 or 40 substandard, poor build quality issues on this 90+ k hunk of junk.
I'm sorry to offend you by expecting more for my money. If the automakers made cars this way they'd be up to their ears in lawsuits and recalls.
I just expect a little more for my hard earned dollar.
I still camp in it every weekend, but I refuse to pretend it has no problems or quality control issues and sweep them under the rug.Click image for larger version

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This panel is not level/square. Nothing in this trailer is.
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The cook top is sinking/sagging.
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The clamp wheels don't line up.
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The stabilizer crank fell apart.
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This little plastic thing won't stay on the cooling fin where it belongs.
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This little fuzzy thing is coming unglued.
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Several light covers are cracked.
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This ugly, cheesy wallpaper border is bubbling up.
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The wallpaper is bubbling where it meets the counter.
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The drawers come open while traveling.
I just expected better quality.
This is the most expensive thing I have ever bought and it has more problems than anything I've ever bought except a less expensive dob travel trailer.
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Old 08-17-2014, 08:14 AM   #2032
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I live in Florida. Yesterday, I went to a pool party at a 1940's bungalow. The aluminum patio cage barely had any corrosion. I did see a few marks, all smaller than a dime. But that was from the 40s. I walked over to my aunts house and her aluminum cage is from the 90s and looked perfect. So my question is ... Why?
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Old 08-17-2014, 08:44 AM   #2033
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Aren't you talking about anodized aluminum there? Totally different animal. Hardware on our ZipDee's is anodized.
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Old 08-17-2014, 09:25 AM   #2034
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M.hony was spot on in his observations that an AS costing three times the price of a SOB should have a better level of quality. I've turned my Safari 25 FB into a guest house. Exactly a year ago, I purchased a Leisure Van Unity that has zero defects. Interestingly enough, I had the opportunity of comparing the Unity side by side with an AS Interstate. No comparison, especially when the Interstate was $25K more than the unity. BTW, there is a six month waiting period to buy a Unity.

In addition to quality issues, it is extremely difficult to get an RV repair facility to work on an AS. If Thor was serious about QC, they would set up some sort authorized repair service that wasn't necessarily tied in with a dealership.

Here's picture of my first and last Airstream now relegated to guest house duties.
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Old 08-17-2014, 09:29 AM   #2035
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I replaced the water fill door with an Aierstream stainless unit that has a unique key, not the common key of every brand of trailer for that door. The 2014 models have that common key on all the hatch latches, but I was able to get them re-keyed to match the pickup cover door key.

After all, nothing of value is every carried in the outside compartments, except maybe a 50' 50amp power cord....

Post 2031 above first photo shows the aluminum side splash beside the stove. Mine came unstuck and slid half way down the wall - only two short pieces of double sided tape held it in place. The hot temps in AZ caused the tape to fail. Wonder where more of that stuff was used?
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Old 08-17-2014, 10:15 AM   #2036
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Hi from AZ. . . When I bought my 1st AS, '05 Safari, I was particularly annoyed by the poor quality mattresses provided & the very thin, unlined curtains/drapes. I had no major problems. So I bought what I wanted in mattresses & drapes, with a black-out insert, & went on. And yes, I am a little annoyed by having to pay several hundred dollars for all those S.S. upgrades for my FC 28. BUT, the truth is, I'm not really interested in an SOB of any quality ! I guess I love the IDEA of my Airstream, what it means to me, my background. The reality of sub-standard pieces & plastic parts not withstanding. I'm not going over to the 'white' side It does seem however, that Mr Hony might be happier in some other camper. Regards, Craig
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Old 08-17-2014, 11:06 AM   #2037
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I stand by my comments. I guess misery loves company. Same old story, the same people make the same comments over and over. Give it up or give up your AS! We all know AS have problems so why continually complain. I sold my last AS because of all the little things wrong. But I tend to not dwell on them. Why make bad comments when you may be generalizing or talking about your particular problems. I want to scream each time I here someone complain about how much AS cost. No one forced you to spend your money on an unusually expensive toy. Sell your AS, buy another type of trailer for a lot less money and go on with your life camping. Sorry jim
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Old 08-17-2014, 02:15 PM   #2038
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zigzagguzzi said, "I want to scream each time I here someone complain about how much AS cost. No one forced you to spend your money on an unusually expensive toy."

I find it interesting that someone who no longer owns an AS continues to comment. You've missed the point that there is a quality perception based on the higher price of the AS compared to other brands. Those of us that have noted the poor QC of Airstream products do so in hopes that somebody at Thor gets it.

When I pay a premium price for anything, I expect a certain level of QC that just isn't evident in some late model AS products.

At least I still have my AS and after curing the warts, repurposed it for the use of friends and family.
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I am not looking for a toy. I want to join the tiny house movement. That means full timing. I am willing to pay for quality. My research on airstream has killed my original image of them as the highest quailty brand. However, everything is a trade off so we will see. Also, to my earlier comment - I have no idea what type of aluminum florida pool cages are made of just that they don't seem to have any corrosion. That's why I was wondering why AS would? Idk idk
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Looked it up a little = If pool cages are anodized, why can't they just anodized airstream? Right?
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Old 08-17-2014, 04:08 PM   #2041
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Looked it up a little = If pool cages are anodized, why can't they just anodized airstream? Right?

They could anodize them. I think I'm right here, but don't quote me: Avion's were anodized. That solved Filiform corrosion, as anodizing is a chemical bonding with the base metal (where is Robert Cross when we need him. Robert, if you are out there, explain anodizing and it's properties to us). But you look at old Avions, they are a dull gray. There is a lot of use of anodized aluminum on boats, especially the metal work, outriggers, tuna towers, T tops, hand rails, etc. Most of these accessories look great and are a bright shinny silver finish. I suspect there are different quality levels of anodize finish and the brightest/most durable being the most expensive. Anodizing will still, however, not solve all problems. If scratched through to the base metal, corrosion will have a place to start. Drill a hole and you have the raw AL there that will allow corrosion also. We have a lot of holes drilled in Airstreams, in a corrosive environment an owner would still have to be on watch.


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Old 08-17-2014, 04:38 PM   #2042
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Zigzagguzzi is missing the point altogether.
I love my Airstream. I camp in it every weekend. I owned an sob before the Airstream.
I still reserve the right to comment on the peeling paint on the stove vent.
How much it costs isn't the point. No one forced me to borrow the money from Good Sam/Bank of the West. The point is that the build quality should be better. For that amount of money it should be flawless.
I am grown and live in a free land. I don't think I need anyone to tell me what I should/should not say or do. I pay all my bills by myself.
I still have never seen this corrosion y'all are speaking of (thank goodness), but I have seen all types of other problems that should not be.
I love my trailer, and for me it's an Airstream or no trailer, but I 'm not going to sit back and pretend it's perfect, 'cause it ain't...
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Zigzagguzzi is missing the point altogether.
I love my Airstream. I camp in it every weekend. I owned an sob before the Airstream.
I still reserve the right to comment on the peeling paint on the stove vent.
How much it costs isn't the point. No one forced me to borrow the money from Good Sam/Bank of the West. The point is that the build quality should be better. For that amount of money it should be flawless.
I am grown and live in a free land. I don't think I need anyone to tell me what I should/should not say or do. I pay all my bills by myself.
I still have never seen this corrosion y'all are speaking of (thank goodness), but I have seen all types of other problems that should not be.
I love my trailer, and for me it's an Airstream or no trailer, but I 'm not going to sit back and pretend it's perfect, 'cause it ain't...

M., I've found the customer service guys great at AS. You are still under warrantee and I bet if you call CS directly with your list of all the problems and ask them to run interference with your dealer, they will. Not that your dealer would not do all the work correctly for you, but why not get Johnson ctr involved with you directly from the get go since you have so many small problems to fix. Just a thought. I went that route with the clearance lights fix and the work by the dealer was quick and done correctly.


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I'm not trying to tell you what to do. I am trying to tell you what you should have done. Resign yourself that you have ,in your idea, an inferior product for the price and need to fix it to your idea of perfection, or sell it and move on. I could have kept my last AS, but being retired, the constant maintenance required to keep it looking nice and safe was too much. I own a fifty year old Avion that someone else restored. It looks like it is fifty years old, but it is safe and dry. I don't need to worry about dings or rust. I guess what I am saying is if you have a newer AS you can always expect to have one thing or another show up tp agrivate you if you let it. Two options to keep from going crazy.. Sell it or get used to it. Life is too short and fragile to have a TT frustrate you to the point of distraction to happiness. I see too many people on the forums that seem to worry too much about whether they got their money's worth or not. If you camp in your AS and it gives you peace of mind, regardless of the faults, it was worth the money. Don't feel guilty. And don't worry about what other people may think of your As. Peace, jim
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